Thursday, May 11, 2017

Exploring the Marvel Netflix Shows: Part Five Redux (Iron Fist)

This is a continuation of my exploration of the Marvel Netflix shows (part one, two, three, and four).  I'm a big fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) and out of all its current expressions the Netflix shows are my favourite--the ultimate highlight of the format.  The fan service surrounding these shows lack collated, contextualized, and expository material, so what follows addresses those elements.

SPOILERS below

Iron Fist (March 17, 2017)

The most recent Netflix venture has had a rough ride from the critics, but before we get into that let's start with the basics.  The show aired after the MCU's Doctor Strange as the final installment before The Defenders team-up.  Iron Fist was created to take advantage of the 70s martial arts craze (in 1974 by Roy Thomas, Gil Kane, and Bill Everett).  Originally scheduled to be the third character to debut on Netflix, he was swapped for Luke Cage to take advantage of Mike Colter's popularity after Jessica Jones aired (it also made a lot more sense leading into The Defenders).  Any normal reception of the show became impossible with the issue-focused reviews it received and it will be years before we get level-headed analysis.

Showrunner Scott Buck's version of the character borrows a great deal from the original origin story in the comics (with light borrowings from from the much later Matt Fraction, Ed Brubaker, and Duane Swierczynski's Immortal Iron Fist).  The very simplistic Rand-Meachum dynamic of that original tale is expanded considerably, but mixed with an occasionally confusing plot involving The Hand that was required as a set-up to The Defenders (one wonders how much that obligation handicapped choices made in the show).  Buck's pacing, and the show in general, is most similar to Luke Cage, but unlike that show an origin story for Danny was necessary (Luke had already debuted in Jessica Jones so there was no need to rush into his backstory).

Credited Writers (episodes in parenthesis; selected past credits noted)

Scott Buck (1, 2, 13) - Dexter, Six Feet Under; he's the showrunner for the upcoming Inhumans
Quinton Peeples (3, 10) - 11.22.63, Unforgettable
Scott Reynolds (4, 12) - Jessica Jones, Dexter; he's the first writer to be borrowed from another Marvel Netflix show
Cristine Chambers (5) - Boardwalk Empire
Dwain Worrell (6) - The Walking Dead
Ian Stokes (7, 11) - Teen Wolf, Warehouse 13
Tamara Becher-Wilkinson (8, 13) - Shades of Blue, Covert Affairs, Buffy
Pat Charles (9, 13) - Resurrection, Bones

Notable Easter Eggs

[I've noted in brackets which episodes these occur in--so (1) refers to episode one]

Needing to set-up The Defenders there's a fair number of easter eggs (13): the unexplained Order of the Crane Mother is mentioned (2); the staple Avengers "incident" reference occurs (2); The New York Bulletin (Ben Urich's and Karen Page's newspaper) appears (3); Daredevil gets mentioned by name (3, 7); the Hulk (6) is referred to; Luke Cage (7) is mentioned by name; the ubiquitous Dogs of Hell are mentioned (7); Karen Page (7) is mentioned by name; Jessica Jones (8) is referenced (not by name--this is the most rewarding/entertaining easter egg in my opinion); Claire reads a letter from Luke Cage (8), which is a roundabout way of referencing his incarceration in Seagate prison (which debuted in Iron Man 2); Stark Industries (9) is mentioned; as is the Roxxon Corporation (11); finally, the blood-draining planned for Colleen (12) mirrors what the Hand does in Daredevil season two.

Iron Fist leads into The Defenders and has to do a great deal of work to set-up that show; Bakuto's boss (presumably Sigourney Weaver's character) remains unknown (with Bakuto himself likely to be resurrected); Gao remains free, as does (presumably) her faction of the Hand.  As has been long suspected, the Hand itself will be the opposition for the quartet of heroes, although it could simply be a faction of the group.

Select Character Notes

Personal history: I'd never heard of Iron Fist until I started paying attention to the Netflix shows (he'd been killed off before I started reading comics (1986) and returned just as I was leaving (1992)).
  • Danny Rand/Iron Fist: debuted in Marvel Premiere 15; this version stays close to that original story, but with a greater emphasis on Danny's naivety (his battles with Rand Corps' policies has echoes of the first Iron Man); while in the comic he learns of the past from the monks of K'un Lun and rushes out for vengeance, here he seeks answers to his past that gradually reaches a desire for vengeance.  Given the expectations for who Danny will be in The Defenders, Buck had little choice but to keep Danny fairly naive throughout the show; I liked Finn Jones performance, despite the limitations imposed on the character
  • Colleen Wing: the martial artist is Danny's long-time ally and was an early addition to the Iron Fist comics (Marvel Premiere 19); her origin was changed considerably (The Hand, which has little to no place in Iron Fist--they are Daredevil villains in the comics--had no precedent in her past), nor do she and Danny have a romantic entanglement (normally Danny is with Misty Knight; writer Tamara Becher-Wilkinson noted that the romance was created largely because otherwise there would be no romance in the show); Jessica Henwick does a fine job in the role, although her involvement with Bakuto's faction creates some confusion (echoing, in a way, Danny's own naivete)
  • Harold Meachum: the business partner of Danny's father dies very early in Iron Fist's run (Marvel Premiere 18) and Buck makes him a vastly more interesting in the show; I've seen complaints about the character, but I enjoyed it thoroughly and it's clearly meant to give us a taste of how The Hand's resurrection will impact Elektra; in the realm of Netflix villains he doesn't reach the heights of the best (Kilgrave, Kingpin, or Cottonmouth), but he's far better than Diamondback, Nobu, etc and he's much more integral to the development of secondary characters (his children) than any previous villain
  • Joy Meachum: the innocent Meachum in the comics, Jessica Stroup's version is used as character development and motivation for those around her (with a tease for greater things in a second season, echoing an arc from the early Iron Fist comics); Stroup does a solid job with the limited material she's given, but they could have done more with her
  • Ward Meachum: vastly improved from his cartoony comic book basis (he has been dead for quite some time (Namor the Sub-Mariner 18, in 1991)); in the show he is the son (instead of brother) of Harold; this is, to my mind, the best performance in the entire show (great work by Tom Pelphrey--it's a slow burn with a maganificent payoff)--Ward goes through a truly incredible journey and has arguably the most interesting character arc in the show
  • Madame Gao: reprising her role from both seasons of Daredevil, I'd been convinced for a long time that she was Crane Mother, but that now seems unlikely; I thought she was a much more interesting villain than Bakuto who supplants her, but at least she survives to potentially cause trouble later; Wai Ching Ho is finally given room to work here and gives a fantastic performance as the character
  • Claire Temple: she's long since stopped representing her comic book basis and here enjoys her largest role to date--learning to fight (and indeed does fight) in the show; among other things she serves as a way to spoonfeed the various mystical elements of the show to the audience; she also remains the one character who has appeared in all the Defenders shows; it's another strong performance by Rosario Dawson
  • Bakuto: a short-lived character borrowed from Daredevil (I haven't been able to read the three issues he appears in, so I can't directly compare); he's the leader of another faction of The Hand (clearly hinted at as being the one we expect Sigourney Weaver to lead in The Defenders), but his goals aren't entirely clear; like every Netflix venture that's introduced a villain halfway through (Luke Cage, Daredevil season two), he's not that effective and, indeed, his plotline is difficult to follow--he needed a couple of more episodes, but then why have a second villain at all if that's the case?
  • Davos: another early character from the comics (Iron Fist 1 from 1975), the antagonist is well-established, but without a ton of appearances (perhaps because he's largely a one-note villain); the major tweak from his comic book origin is that instead of failing to become the Iron Fist, here he was denied that chance (far better motivation in my opinion); he's been hinted at in the Netflix universe since the beginning (Daredevil season one); Sacha Dhawan and the show do a good job of encapsulating who he is in limited time (and the show happily foreshadows him before he appears); there's lot's of potential here and he's the only K'un Lun element that's evocative (albeit, it's difficult to imagine Dhawan as the son of Hoon Lee--not that anyone has made that complaint)
  • Jeri Hogarth: she's primarily an Iron Fist character in the comics (she's the lawyer for Rand Corps, as she remains here), but coming from a pivotal role in Jessica Jones she's used sparingly (just 3 episodes)--there's lot's of potential to make more use of her here if they wish, although given that she's meant to help Danny in this season there's no opportunity for the usual interplay of good-hearted Danny vs cold-hearted Hogarth; there's also a failed opportunity to acknowledge some of the trauma she went through in Jessica Jones (a failing shared by Luke Cage in Luke Cage)
  • Lei Kung the Thunderer: an original character in the comic who died recently (2014); here he's used to represent the K'un Lun part of Danny's psyche as well as serve as motivation for Davos; Hoon Lee has an amazing voice and I hope there's more of him in the show if it gets a second season
  • Zhou Cheng: a short-lived and newer Iron Fist antagonist (appearing in Immortal Iron Fist 17-20), his desire to destroy the Iron Fist remains the same, but in the show he serves as champion of Gao's faction of the Hand (he's definitely less manic than he is in the comics); Zhou does a great job with the character and I'd love to see him again in the role
  • Bride of Nine Spiders: in the comics she's the champion for the Kingdom of Spiders, but here she's simply an exotic fighter for Gao's faction of the Hand; the show doesn't do anything interesting with her--she's visually compelling and distinct from other fighters, but we don't get any substance with her so it's hard to assess Jane Kim's performance (she has a martial arts background, but writer Dwain Worrell decided to focus away from that and make her more of a seductress/trickster--something not grounded in her comic book inspiration)
  • Scythe: the villain from the very first Iron Fist comic (his only appearance), but other than the name bears little resemblance to him; he has one of the better choreographed fights with Danny in the show
  • Hai-Qing Yang: created for the show to lead a group of triads, I bring him up as the worst performance in the series
  • Thembi Wallace: reprises her role as a reporter from Luke Cage
  • Daryll: no comic book basis, but appeared in Luke Cage previously (episode 10)
  • Shirley Benson: reprises her role as Claire's boss from Daredevil
Comic Book Influences

Like the other Netflix shows we get a mix of adaptation with original material.  I was surprised Buck kept Danny's origin of getting his powers from Shou-Lao the dragon, given that there was no budget to really pay that off.  This fit Buck's general trend of trying to be faithful to the early comics (much like Luke Cage). Danny's arrival at K'un Lun is changed slightly, as his mother does not survive the crash only to be eaten by wolves, nor does Danny learn that Harold Meachum plotted the crash while training in the city and then leave K'un Lun seeking revenge (the revenge element is preserved for the final sequence of the show).  The Meachums are much improved from their cartoony comic originals (Ward and Harold in particular have much more depth).  All the material involving The Hand was invented for the show, with various Danny antagonists stuffed into that envelope for the sake of simplicity (eg Zhou Cheng, the Bride of Nine Spiders, etc)--I'm sympathetic to this because the mystical factions are confusing enough as it is--no non-fan is ever going to be able to untangle it all if they'd simply followed the comics.  The romance with Colleen is (as far as I can tell) without precedence; Misty Knight, who is Danny's most frequent partner, does not seem likely to enter the picture (seemingly reserved for Luke Cage).

Critical Reception

Previously I've referenced the critical score for the show I'm reviewing, but in this case it's so absurd I'll simply give the caveat I've given in every other case: take critical scores with a grain of salt (Agents of SHIELD somehow has 100% each of its last two seasons--however much you like that show that's simply ridiculous).  Part of the problem is just how few TV critics there are--a movie will receive over 200 reviews (sometimes over 300), while TV shows are lucky to hit 40, which vastly slants percentages.

Assessment

I'll dig into the reviews below, since the criticism is affected by the casting of the show, not its substance.  For me Iron Fist is about mid-range among the Netflix ventures--it doesn't approach the heights of Jessica Jones or Daredevil season one, but it isn't as disjointed as Daredevil season two and or as glacial as Luke Cage (the former has better heights, so Iron Fist ranks at #4 out of the five Netflix seasons for me).  The show has two intertwining threads: the Meachums (and thus Rand Corporation) and the Hand.  While Buck is able to make the Hand less ridiculous than it is in Daredevil, it's still the weak link of the two elements (all the calls I see for more mysticism seem impractical to me--as expensive as Netflix shows are, there's simply no way for them to go down the road of The Immortal Iron Fist).  The show struggles to explain what's going on with the Hand--why are there factions and what do they want? It's never made clear (MCU Exchange tries to explain--futilely I think).  I would have much rather seen a Meachum focused season with just a light frosting of Danny's mystical/ninja elements--Daredevil has already spent plenty of time with The Hand, but no other Defender can deal with the corporate angle the way Danny can.  Danny himself is a difficult character to adapt (part of the reason he works so well when paired with Luke Cage is there's less dependency on their fairly limited range as characters).  The show kept his impulsive, headstrong nature, but we don't see the jokester he becomes in the comics.  Unfortunately Buck continued the trend of introducing a second villain for the second act who pales to the one they replaced--whether Marvel recognizes this as a flaw remains to be seen. There are pacing issues with the show as it occasionally gets bogged down in mystical exposition (which is, again, why I would have downplayed that element). There are also choreography problems in the first 5-6 episodes when it comes to Danny's martial arts--these disappear in the second half of the run, but those early directors (John Dahl, Tom Shankland, Miguel Sapochnik, Uta Briesewitz, and to a lesser degree RZA) struggle in how they cut the sequences together (there's no question that Finn Jones is new to martial arts, but that's far less apparent in the latter episodes, indicating it could have been disguised better throughout).  I have mixed feelings about the choice to use visual effects to show Danny's anger (not a choice I'd make).  I'm not a fan of the various flashback sequences to things that happened in the show--it's something that functions in weekly television, but not in the Netflix binge format.  The effects are a mixed bag (Danny's flip in the first episode is terrible, as is the CGI bird we see occasionally, but the Iron Fist effects are fantastic).  The performances are mostly good, with Tom Pelphrey as the standout (a bit like Mahershala Ali in Luke Cage); Henry Yuk is the most cringe-worthy.  I think it's a fair point that Ward probably shouldn't be the standout, but given all the restraints on character growth for those appearing in The Defenders I can live with it.  I'm not a hiphop fan so that music element didn't work for me, but I did like the incidental music of the show.

Criticism

What a shit-show this has been as reviewers crammed themselves into an echo chamber and came out with issues-journalism--Iron Fist became the Rubicon that Doctor Strange was supposed to be (I have to wonder, given how muted things were when the casting occurred, if the uproar was in reaction to the failure to hurt Doctor Strange with similar complaints).  There's so much to unpack about the reviews here, but let's preface a few things: 1) the reviewer pool for television is small and shown a tendency to put politics over criticism (the scores for Luke Cage are an easy comparison to make), 2) none of the reviewers have bad intentions--there's no conspiracy or axe to grind against Marvel, Netflix, Scott Buck, or Finn Jones, 3) there could be an interesting discussion about the casting for the show, but that's not what anyone is engaging in, 4) it's unclear what impact the reviews will ultimately have on the show (the audience scores are roughly in the mid-70s% with clear signs of vote-brigading (there's significantly more votes on the show than any other Marvel Netflix venture)--how much of the voting is a Streisand Effect isn't clear, 5) it's absolutely acceptable for you, as a viewer, to be outraged by the show (or simply dislike it).

With all of that aside, let's deal with the obvious issue: there's no white-washing in the casting of Danny Rand.  The character was created white and remains so in the comics (43 years later).  There are different ethnic (and gendered) versions of the Iron Fist (it's a title, not a name), but none of them are Danny Rand.  The argument (which isn't presented as an argument) is more about cultural appropriation--simplistically, martial arts comes out of Asia, ergo as one of the first martial arts characters in Marvel television, that person should be Asian (Elektra was the first--Marvel did make an ethnicity change for her, eliminating the original Greek character in favour of an Asian (Thai) actress).  This is a very complicated issue and none of the nuance associated with that debate is occurring here (instead it's very nanny state, with the reviewers playing the role of knowing what's best for you; it's also a little insulting to all the Asian stars who made martial arts mainstream in the 70s).  I don't agree with the appropriation argument, but it's not being made maliciously (excluding, of course, the people bullying Finn Jones on social media).  One thing I will point out, just for logical consistency, is if you're going to have an issue with Jones' casting, then you also need to take issue with Jessica Henwick as Colleen Wing (her comic book character is Japanese, whereas the actress is Chinese), Jane Kim (the character is Chinese, the actress is Korean), Rosario Dawson (her character is African-American, the actress is Puerto Rican/Cuban), and Sacha Dhawan as Davos (he's Indian, the character is Chinese).  There's a reason why these choices are not criticised (there's a sophisticated one and a simplistic one), but I won't go down that rabbit hole.  You can take this to all sorts of extremes (most of the critics are white, so why not step aside and let someone impacted by the choice write the review?), but whatever your opinion is, it's tainted any discussion of the show.  If I thought a show was being racist or sexist etc, that's going to colour my opinion of it and make me struggle to deal with anyone who disagreed--it's a natural reaction.

There are other criticisms of the show.  Much of it is idiosyncratic, based on the expectations of the person giving it (eg CNet complaining the show is too serious, or those who wanted a 13-episode martial arts-fest, or those who wanted it mostly mystical).  In talking to people the main complaint I hear is about pacing, and it is a slow show, although I don't think it's particularly slow in the context of its sister-shows (Caleb Borchers makes the obvious point that Daredevil season one is slow as well).  The martial arts are another complaint I see--the fight sequences are mostly good (keeping in mind the aforementioned issues above), but the show was more interested in hiring actors as opposed to martial artists, which impacts what you can do. Finally, for those looking for the internal complexity of a Matt Murdock or Jessica Jones, that's not who Danny Rand is (or Luke Cage for that matter)--complexity comes from the supporting cast--Iron Fist in particularly has never been a particularly tortured character.

Second Season?

This is the first Netflix offering where we truly have to wonder if we'll get a second season.  All three other Defenders already have a second (or third) season confirmed, with Jessica Jones and Luke Cage filming now. Clearly the plans before release are to have another season as there are plenty of conflicts to explore (Davos, Joy, and Gao), but has the critical drubbing caused enough damage to put the brakes on?  I don't think we'll know for months--I'd guess any announcement will occur after The Defenders (so August at the earliest).  On the positive side, Iron Fist was the most binged-watched Netflix premiere yet (despite the negative reviews hitting before the show aired), but as I cautioned with Luke Cage, early viewing is not necessary an indicator of long-term interest.  If I were to guess I think we'll get that second season (everyone is signed and it's all integrated--the MCU survived Ed Norton's Hulk and Thor: The Dark World, so why not this?), but time will tell.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

Thursday, February 23, 2017

Exploring the Marvel Netflix Shows: Part Eight (Latest Updates)

This is a continuation of my exploration of the Marvel Netflix shows (part one, two, three, four, five, six, and seven).  I'm a big fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) and out of all its current expressions the Netflix shows are my favourite--the ultimate highlight of the format.  The fan service surrounding these shows lacks collated, contextualized, and expository material, so what follows addresses those elements.

This post is looking forward into the future, so beyond what's been confirmed I indulge in some speculation.  Potential SPOILERS below.


The second Iron Fist trailer dropped (followed by a Danny specific video) and in the absence of the usual easter egg videos I'll describe it: The intro matches reports from New York Comic Con with Danny arriving at Rand Corps (his father's company) fifteen years after his disappearance (and presumed death).  He looks like a hobo so security tries to throw him out, giving Danny a chance to show off his martial arts skills.  Harold Meachem, business partner of Danny's father, asks questions the audience will have: "Why has he waited so long to show up? How the hell did he learn martial arts?"  It's not clear how Danny first meets Colleen Wing, but we see him at her training facilities (where we get a K'un-Lun reference).  Danny mentions a deep attachment to his father's company.  We also get statements from the show's two presumed villains (Harold and Madame Gao, aka Crane Mother); Gao says (in the Danny featurette) "This city is no place for the Iron Fist."  There's a Claire Temple voice over saying "I know what they are, I know what they can do," which is presumably a reference to the Hand (in the Danny featurette we learn that Danny doesn't fully believe in his ancient enemy initially, "They are very real--they've infested Rand [Corps]" says Harold--perhaps he's in opposition to Gao, or wishes to get out from under her influence).  Then Kevin Singleton (see below) says, "A change is coming Danny, become what you were meant to be."  There are a couple of images I wanted to specifically look at:


This is Harold Meachem with blood spatter all over his face; it appears within the trailer than he's beaten someone to death, possibly as Gao watches--but who?  Why?  While Harold doesn't look pleased, it certainly illustrates his capacity for violence, or perhaps a need to obey Gao.  Finn Jones mentions that it won't always be clear who the good/bad guys are, so perhaps Harold isn't as cartoony as he is in the comics.


This is the Steel Serpent symbol we've seen before on Gao's heroine packages (Daredevil), and by featuring the sigil prominently in the trailer it's clear we'll see the classic Iron Fist character.  No one seems to understand the "Yang Hai-Qing" reference shown above.


We get what I think will be the only nod to Iron Fist's traditional yellow and green costume in this image while he's in K'un-Lun.  I've heard some fans expressing disappointment if we don't get his traditional outfit in the show, but I'm fine either way.  If Luke Cage can skip the costume I'm sure Danny Rand can survive without it as well.

MCU Exchange speculated that actor Ramon Rodriguez is Steel Serpent, but assuming his IMDB name reveal is accurate (Kevin Singleton), that theory appears to be busted (unless they are changing his comic book identity).  I think Singelton's words to Danny in the trailer are not the sort of thing an antagonist would say (unless, of course, the intent is for him to become a villain in subsequent seasons).

On to more general speculation: Harold Meachem seems to be working for Gao (rather than a partnership, ala Wilson Fisk; certainly the deference given her by the Kingpin pays off here); perhaps he made a deal with her to get rid of the Rand family ten years earlier, or he could simply be under her thumb.  This suggests Gao (Crane Mother) is the major villain.  Meachem seems completely disconnected from her heroine enterprise.  Perhaps with Fisk in prison she needed a new partner, but her connection to Meachem may have already existed--we simply don't know.  In the comics Gao isn't involved at all with the Hand (or heroine distribution), but it appears the show is making things simpler by folding all enemy ninjas under one umbrella.


A final note from the teaser: I'm unsure who the woman depicted above is; the white outfit suggests Colleen, but it doesn't look like her (her stunt double perhaps?).  I'm open to suggestions.

The Colleen Wing teaser makes me think the cage fight scene is her intro for the show--whether to Danny Rand, the viewing audience, or both is uncertain.  We still aren't sure how Danny meets Claire, I'd assumed it was through Colleen, but it's possible the connection goes the other way around.

The only new IMDB reveal (keeping in mind the usual caveats about the site) is the aforementioned Kevin Singleton.  While there are a myriad of Kevins in Marvel, there are none with that specific name (and there are no Singletons).  None of the Kevins I looked at seemed likely, so this character may have been created for the show.

Most of the show's directors were revealed in January, but one of the three unknowns has since been unveiled: RZA is directing the sixth episode of the season ("Immortal Emerges From Cave").

Wired posted a fun article where a writer estimated the amount of force Danny can exert with a punch.


While there's still no firm release date for The Defenders, there's reason to suspect it will be no earlier than mid-June (although, as the source of the article points out, Marvel has a say on when the date is announced, so it could theoretically be earlier).

The theory that Sigourney Weaver's Alexandra is the Beast (not Hank McCoy, but the creature the Hand serves) persists.  I mentioned previously the potential white-washing complaints that this might entail, but putting that aside for a moment, MCU Exchange's theory is that she's based on Alexander Bont (the Brian Michael Bendis created predecessor to Wilson Fisk).  One problem I have with this is the absence of any reference to Bont previously, when surely it's something Fisk would have noted as he was taking over Hell's Kitchen.  Another issue is that given how the criminal world is depicted in Daredevil season two, there's little time for a new crime lord to appear and take Fisk's place (indeed, ensuring no one fills the vacuum is why Fisk frees Frank Castle).  The way Sigourney Weaver's character is set up suggests to me that she's in charge of a legitimate business (presumably corporate and in my opinion IGH itself)--something far more concrete than the pseudo-legitimacy Fisk pursues in Daredevil season one--and beyond the scope of what Bont would represent.  If we accept the hints about Iron Fist it seems like Crane Mother leads the Hand, leaving no room for the Beast.

Another theory has posited that Alexandra is based on Punisher villain Ma Gnucci, who is very similar to Alexander Bont above (yet another crime lord in New York City).  I have all the same problems mentioned above, except Gnucci (as is) makes even less sense in this context than a possessed Bont (her personality also seems unlike the descriptions we've heard about Alexandra).

There's another IMDB character listing (keeping in mind the usual caveat that the site can be wrong): Sowande, who has no obvious comic book basis.


There hasn't been much Punisher news, but we did get a couple more characters listed on IMDB:
  • Dax - likely show-created (the only related name is Daraxus Dax, a one-shot X-Men villain who is dead)
  • Paulie - also likely show-created (the only comic-related character is Paulie Provenzano, a short-lived X-Men character who is now deceased)
  • Weems - show-created (all the Weems in Marvel are superpowered characters unsuited to the Punisher)

The first casting announcement for The Inhumans has come through, as Game of Thrones star Iwan Rheon will play Maximus the Mad (so, presumably, quite similar to his role as Ramsay Bolton in the HBO show).


Cloak & Dagger leads have been announced with Olivia Holt (who got her start with Disney and is known for Kickin' It) as Dagger and Aubrey Joseph (with fewer credits, last in The Night Of) as Cloak.  This runs contrary to the rumour MCU Exchange posted not long before (suggesting Noah Gray-Cabey and Debby Ryan).  Holt doesn't really fit how I picture Dagger, but ultimately her performance matters more than that.  There's since been additional casting announcements, filling out the roles of the parents among others (suggesting at least some changes to the comic book origin).


The main Runaways cast was announced:
Rhenzy Feliz (Casual) as Alex Wilder
Lyrica Okano (most recently The Affair) as Nico Minoru
Virginia Gardner (most recently Secrets and Lies) as Karolina Dean
Ariela Barer (most recently One Day at a Time) as Gert Yorkes (a race swap as Gert is white in the comics)
Gregg Sulkin (extensive credits, most recent series Faking It) as Chase Stein
Allegra Acosta (best known from 100 Things to do Before High School) as Molly Hernandez (a race swap as Molly Hayes is white in the comics)
Since then the parents have also been cast (unlike those in Cloak & Dagger these have significance in the comic).


The rumour for a Namor the Submariner movie/show has picked up steam in a short time.  After the initial speculation came this Tweet from the Daredevil Twitter feed that could hint at it (you can see the partially blurry headline "New Theories Shed Light on Lost City"--but that could easily refer to something else--Attilan (Inhumans), K'un-Lun (Iron Fist), etc).  That was followed by this seeming confirmation from Production Weekly (when that broke it was suggested it could be John Ridley's secret project for ABC).  There's been no official word from Marvel about it, so we don't know if it's actually happening and, if so, whether it's a movie or a show (here you can see various ideas if it's a movie).  Armin from Comic Book Cast 2 speculates that it's a TV show since a movie already in production would need a release date--it would also necessarily have to be part of Phase Three and there's no evidence of that, so I'm inclined to agree with him.  One has to wonder if Namor will be another IMAX project ala the Inhumans.  If it is a show it would also get around any distribution rights Universal may still hold (my guess is that that's no longer an issue for Marvel, but we don't have absolute confirmation in that regard).  I've also seen it argued that what's being filmed is a pilot, in which case it might never see the light of day.


There's a great piece describing Ike Perlmutter's rise to power and influence at Marvel along with his interference before being taken away from the movie side of the business (in terms of what was new to me: the former I hadn't seen detailed, while the movie-related info has been out there for quite some time).  I think it's well worth reading, however, it's clear the article was completed months ago (probably early fall of 2016), despite having a publication date of February 20th, 2017.  My evidence for this: "Vanity Fair reported early in April of last year [my emphasis]," referencing this 2015 article; the comments indicating no knowledge of an Inhumans TV show (announced in November), Marvel Entertainment's cooperation with X-Men TV shows (Legion's beginnings date back to 2014), Perlmutter's role as a Trump adviser (January), the X-Men rebirth in the comics (fall), etc.  As interesting as it is to see what came before, I'm far more interested in what's happening now at Marvel, particularly when the gist of the article is focused on the interplay between the movie MCU and what's happening on television.  A more nitpicky point: Tilda Swinton's casting seems less like Perlmutter and more a matter of appealing to the Chinese market (for those who don't know, the Ancient One was originally Tibetan and the issue of Tibet is something the Chinese government is particularly sensitive about).  Director Scott Derrickson had a very articulate reason for the change unrelated to either reason, and barring actual evidence he is lying, I think we must accept what he said.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

Thursday, January 26, 2017

Exploring the Marvel Netflix Shows: Part Seven (Latest Updates)

This is a continuation of my exploration of the Marvel Netflix shows (part one, two, three, four, five, and six).  I'm a big fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) and out of all its current expressions the Netflix shows are my favourite--the ultimate highlight of the format.  The fan service surrounding these shows lacks collated, contextualized, and expository material, so what follows addresses those elements.

This post is looking forward into the future, so beyond what's been confirmed I indulge in some speculation.  Potential SPOILERS below.


While there have been no specific news releases regarding Iron Fist, there have been more names added to the show's IMDB page, so keeping in mind that these could be wrong (for instance, Carrie-Anne Moss isn't listed despite already being confirmed for the show) I thought I'd go through them:
  • The Bride of Nine Spiders - her appearance is also confirmed on Wikipedia, but that's without a source provided; I discussed her previously and if correct this would confirm fan speculation (including my own) that she was shown briefly in the trailer; one wonders if the show-version of her works for Madam Gao/Crane Mother (which she does not in the comics--each represents a different immortal city, the Kingdom of Spiders and K'un-Zi respectively)
  • Grigori Veznikov (presumably the previously listed Andrei's brother); they are perhaps a nod to the Ranskahov brothers from Daredevil season one (possibly taking over the brothers' role in Russian trafficking); the Veznikov's are created for the show
  • Ciara - no comic character has that name (the closest is Ciaran McCoy, Hank McCoy's (Beast) daughter on an alternate Earth)
  • Lynn - there are innumerable Lynn's from the comics; none seem likely, but if I had to pick I'd go with one of: Women's Magazine secretary Lynn Anderson (a Captain Marvel character), NYPD cop Lynn Michaels (a Punisher character), or Daily Bugle intern Lynn Walsh (who would work for the New York Bulletin in the show presumably)
We still have no idea who Michael Maize's short-lived (or briefly appearing) character will be (he's not listed on IMDB), and actor Doua Moua is also listed without a character name.

Most of the episode titles (with directors) have been released:
  • "Snow Gives Way" - John Dahl
  • "Shadow Hawk Takes Flight" - John Dahl
  • "Rolling Thunder Cannon Punch" - Tom Shankland
  • "Eight Diagram Dragon Palm" - Miguel Sapochnik
  • "Under Leaf Pluck Lotus" - Uta Briesewitz
  • "Immortal Emerges From Cave" - unknown
  • "Felling with Tree Routes" - Farren Blackburn
  • "The Blessing of Many Fractures" - Kevin Tancharoen
  • "The Mistress of All Agonies" - Jet Wilkinson
  • title and director unknown
  • "Lead Horse Back to Stable" - Deborah Chow
  • title and director unknown
  • "Dragon Plays with Fire" - Stephen Surjik
A few notes on the directors: John Dahl directed an episode of Jessica Jones (9); Tom Shankland directed an episode of Luke Cage (9); Miguel Sapochnik comes from Game of Thrones; Uta Briesewitz directed an episode of Jessica Jones (11); Farren Blackburn directed a couple of season one Daredevil episodes (5, 10); Kevin Tancharoen has directed eight episodes of Agents of SHIELD; Jet Wilkinson is best known for Home and Away and Neighbours; Deborah Chow is best known for Reign; Stephen Surjik directed an episode of Luke Cage (10), two episodes of Jessica Jones (5-6), and three episodes of Daredevil (1.8, 2.9, 2.11).

It remains an open question whether or not Scott Buck decided to follow the trend in Daredevil season two and Luke Cage of telling two story arcs in one season.  If not he'll be following the route of the arguably more successful Jessica Jones and Daredevil season one in telling just one larger story.  I've seen speculation that the first half of the show will focus on the Meachum's and the corporate angle with the second half focused on the Hand and/or other similar opponents, but there are no clues either way.  All we can be sure of is that Danny Rand learns of the threat that The Defenders will face at some point in his series.

It's worth pointing out to Iron Fist fans that it seems like the mystical element of the character will be toned down from the comics.  I bring this up because I keep seeing speculation about all the mysticism we're going to see (eg here and here) .  Showrunner Scott Buck mentioned depowering Danny (see my Iron Fist article), as well as de-emphasizing the mystical element of the character ("it's about approaching it in a grounded way, and not that its magic"), which is consistent with all of The Defenders.


The Defenders news has come out in a flood, serving as both a promo for the show and providing an indirect boost to Iron Fist.  We've learned The Defenders will air before The Punisher, but there's no specific date for it beyond "summer" (I'd guess June, but it could be May or July).

The show has gone from two showrunners down to one in Marco Ramirez (Douglas Petrie left the project in October).  It's late in the game for Whedonverser Petrie to depart, but it's not dissimilar to Drew Goddard's departure from Daredevil season one, so I wouldn't expect the change to be impactful.

As for specific information about the series, we've learned a bit more about Sigourney Weaver's lead villain character: she's been created for the show and we know her name is Alexandra, with apparently no comic book basis; she's described as a very powerful force in New York City (she sounds a little like the Kingpin, but of the corporate variety).  She's probably connected to IGH (seen in both Jessica Jones and Luke Cage) and in that respect perhaps part of the "Big Pharma" angle we'll see in Iron Fist (see below).  Naturally, despite being told Alexandra has no comic book basis, I've looked through all the Alexandras, Alexanders, and Alexs to see if someone shares the character's aspects, but none do.

In terms of plot apparently the four Defenders all come separately to Midland Circle (where the giant hole from Daredevil season two is located), each arriving for their own reasons and not expecting to cross paths.  Danny Rand is the only one who understands what the threat is (presumably having encountered it or learned of it in Iron Fist).

Comments by the cast make it sound as though Jessica Jones and Matt Murdoch are primarily a pair to start with (some speculate it's to try and get Luke Cage out of jail, but it's difficult to parse that with the aforementioned meeting above since he'd have to be out of jail for it to happen), while Luke and Danny form the other (just as they have been in the comics for decades).  This makes a lot of sense in terms of who these people are: Matt is a crime fighting lawyer and Jessica is a private eye (so both work within the criminal justice system to some extent), while Luke and Danny are principally just heroes.

There were no clues what the show will do with Elektra--the most obvious thing will be the Hand resurrecting her (hinted at in Daredevil season two as well as what happened in the comics) and at least for awhile fighting against the other Defenders.  What's not clear is how or why she'll switch sides (as seems inevitable), nor what connection Alexandra has to the Hand's activities.


Given The Defenders release date the The Punisher will be airing after it--presumably in the fall (perhaps September, similar to Luke Cage's release date).  This leaves room for a December Jessica Jones season two release, but that's speculation on my part.  There have been no official updates on The Punisher, but we can again play the IMDB game and look at the new characters they have listed as appearing:
  • Moose - likely created for the show, the only comic book reference that might work is Mikey McCormick ("the Moose"), a short-lived Kingpin goon killed by Gambit
  • Scut - a show creation
  • Sicario - a show creation (undoubtedly referencing the 1995 film of the same name)
We can dismiss the Mastermind speculatuion for "Bowers", as he's now listed as "Agent Bowers", so having no connection to the Iron Man villain.


The Inhumans is filming in March, and it appears as though it will recognise and be within the continuity of Agents of SHIELD (which is no surprise).  Speaking of AoS, they've referenced Judas Bullets (via Luke Cage), continuing the very light touches of continuity between the ABC show and the Netflix series.  Back to the Inhumans, the casting call was leaked to reveal the main cast of characters: Black Bolt ("Broderick"), Medusa ("Marjorie"), Maximus ("Marty"), Karnak ("Kevin"), Gorgon ("Grady"), Crystal ("Christine"),and Triton ("Timothy").  Given how quickly filming is set to commence I'd expect the actors to be cast quickly.  Roel Reine has been tapped to direct the first two episodes (the ones that will appear in theaters); he's best known for The Scorpion King 3 and his Dutch films.


The curmudgeonly Ike Perlmutter has joined Donald Trump's cabinet, meaning his direct influence at Marvel will be minimized even further--leaving open the possibility that Marvel movies may at long last acknowledge the TV side of things.

Other general Marvel news: Collider posted a video attempting to explain who has which rights to various Marvel characters.  It seems accurate, going through the weird custody of the Fantastic Four (between Constantin Films and Fox), the distribution rights Universal has for the Hulk, but not whatever it is impacting Namor (Marvel has the rights back from Universal, but something we don't  know continues to hold up his use--perhaps it's similar to the Hulk and involves distribution).

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

Thursday, January 5, 2017

Exploring the Marvel Netflix Shows: Part Six (Looking Forward)

This is a continuation of my exploration of the Marvel Netflix shows (part one, two, three, four, and five).  I'm a big fan of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) and out of all its current expressions the Netflix shows are my favourite--the ultimate highlight of the format.  The fan service surrounding these shows lack collated, contextualized, and expository material, so what follows addresses those elements.

This post is looking forward into the future, so beyond what's been confirmed I indulge in some speculation.  Potential SPOILERS below.

The Punisher (Marvel has confirmed the show will air in 2017)


The series was ordered in April, with filming beginning in October (Marvel Netflix shows typically take six months to shoot, meaning it will wrap in March, with a release date as early as June--this would follow Daredevil season two's timeline exactly).  It's unknown if Marvel wants to air The Punisher before The Defenders--given that both series are filming at the same time, the option exists to switch which is first (media coverage seems to assume the latter will be first, but without sources I'm starting with the show that started filming first).  Steve Lightfoot was tapped as the showrunner (Hannibal, Truckers, and Public Enemies among others).  There's been no information to indicate what storyline the show will follow, but given that the Punisher origin story has already been told (in Daredevil season two), there are any number of classic Punisher stories they could use.  At a minimum Lightfoot will be building up the supporting cast to avoid Frank becoming one-dimensional.  The Punisher is a tricky character to handle as when he becomes overly dark he ceases to be an anti-hero and becomes simply a killer--the Daredevil writers were very careful to walk that line and I think we'll see that continue here.

Characters

This is the confirmed cast members plus a couple of characters which (so far) only appear on IMDB, whose track record for accuracy is very hit and miss (so keep that in mind):
  • Frank Castle/The Punisher: he's already had his revenge on those who killed his family in Daredevil, so he'll be looking for new targets (or perhaps new foes will be looking for him)
  • Karen Page: I'm unsure how big her role is, as it's without precedent in the comics, but she provides connective tissue from Daredevil (I thought the two had good chemistry)
  • David Lieberman (aka Micro): a long-time Punisher character (created by Mike Baron and Klaus Janson in 1987) who will at least begin as an ally in the show; he was killed off in the comics in 2011
  • Billy Russo (aka Jigsaw): originally a Spider-Man villain (1976), he has a long tenure of facing the Punisher; like Micro he's also been dead in the comics since 2011
  • Curtis Hoyle: a short-lived Punisher character from Frank's past (also created by Mike Baron and Klaus Janson in 1987), having served with him (Vietnam in the comics, but if the role remains the same it will be updated to Afghanistan and Iraq)
  • Rawlins: presumably William Rawlins from the comics (a corrupt CIA agent), who is a Punisher character (created by Garth Ennis and Doug Braithwaite in 2005); he's been dead since 2007
  • Sarah Lieberman: this is Micro's wife in the show; Micro has no wife in the comic, having instead a fiance (Jan O'Reilly) who appeared exactly once (Punisher Origin of Microchip 1), so we're likely getting a completely different character here
  • (via IMDB) Ahmad Zubair: assuming he hasn't been created for the show, the only Punisher-related character with a similar name is Ahmad Rasfanjani, a Mike Baron/David Ross (1988) short-lived villain
  • (via IMDB) Bowers: the only comic book Bowers is the one-issue Iron Man villain Mastermind, but I think it's unlikely to be him
Dinah Madani, Lewis Walcott and Sam Stein: characters created for the show.

The Defenders (2017 air date has been confirmed)


The long-planned team-up started filming in November (not long after The Punisher above).  It's unknown if more time will be spent filming versus the usual nine-days-per-episode pace used by the other shows.  If it follows the established pattern, with eight episodes versus the usual thirteen, filming will complete in just four months (finishing at the end of February), with post-production making it available as early as May.  If instead they use the typical six months to shoot the show, then filming wraps in April, with post-production making it available in July.  It's unknown if Marvel prefers to air The Punisher before The Defenders--the media coverage seems to assume the latter will be first, but without sources I've starting with the show filming first.

The initial Marvel Netflix plan (back in 2013) mirrored the original MCU movie plan.  The movies began with Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor, and Captain America having solo films leading into The Avengers.  This is the template for the original Netflix plan: Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage leading into The Defenders.  Just like the movies, as the plan rolled out there were small changes, a second season (ie film) squeezed in due to the success of its predecessor (Daredevil season two ala Iron Man 2--both received with less enthusiasm than the original).

Douglas Petrie and Marco Ramirez, the showrunners for Daredevil season two, will helm The Defenders.  The pair talked about the show back in August saying that the heroes won't all get along to start with and that the most significant event at the end of Daredevil was Matt revealing his identity to Karen.  They also hoped to have Frank Castle involved--it's hard to imagine them not getting their wish.

Tom Tennant (editor/publisher of MidwestMovieMaker and MarvelCinematicUniversity) has an interesting theory about the plot.  He proposes that we'll get one of two storylines, first suggesting a version of The Revolution (something Tennant suggested back in July), which is a New Avengers (27-31) story from Brian Michael Bendis.  In Revolution we get a variation of Frank Miller's Elektra resurrection plot (Daredevil 189-190), as Bendis has Elektra resurrect the character Echo to aid the Hand (rather than the Hand attempting to raise Elektra with the same purpose in mind).  When I read this storyline I was underwhelmed by it and don't consider it an option.  Tennant's other suggestion is Shadowland (an Andy Diggle-penned crossover focused on a Daredevil-led Hand), which I haven't read, but I consider extremely unlikely (at least insofar as having Daredevil as the villain--it doesn't mesh with The Defenders first-ever team-up).  In both cases the antagonist is the Hand, which fits all the hints we've been given so far.

Personally, I hope the Hand isn't the ultimate villain, that instead they are a prelude to a larger threat (that would certainly serve the purpose of Marvel trying to do something productive with the Netflix-version of Elektra), but there's no strong hint of who that might be.  I don't think Daredevil did justice to the Hand, as while there's an element of creepiness to them, they don't come across as particularly interesting (they aren't as grounded as the rest of the Netflix universe).  Neither of these theories have a place reserved for Sigourney Weaver, which poses a fairly significant problem for them, but they could be a starting place for the plot (or, at least, the Elektra side of it).  As for Weaver, all she's said publically is that her character is smart and in charge (the only pictures of her character so far make her look like someone corporate), which hardly narrows it down.  It's hard to imagine her at the top of the Hand's hierarchy given the inevitable white-washing complaints if she was.  The possibility remains that she's an invented character for the show, but Petrie and Ramirez are far more likely to use someone from Marvel's extensive roster.  There were rumours before her casting about the team facing the villain Mephisto; Tom Tennant guesses she's Madame Hydra (difficult to parse this with his Hand theories), but given that the Hydra organisation has played no role at all in the Netflix shows it makes little sense here; I've also seen The Beast suggested, who is the supernatural end-game for the Hand, but it puts the show in the realm of white-washing complaints again.

On the very basic level of where the show begins: Claire Temple connects all four heroes, having met them all, so may serve as peacemaker for the initial conflict that's been teased.  There are other connections as well: Luke Cage knows Jessica Jones intimately, while Foggy Nelson and Danny Rand know Jeri Hogarth.

Confirmed characters:
  • Matt Murdock (Daredevil)
  • Jessica Jones
  • Luke Cage
  • Danny Rand (Iron Fist)
  • Claire Temple
  • Stick
  • Elektra
  • Karen Page
  • Foggy Nelson
  • Trish Walker
  • Jeri Hogarth
  • Malcolm Ducasse
  • Misty Knight
  • Colleen Wing
  • Frank Castle (Punisher) - as per IMDB (which seems likely given the comments from the showrunners above)
  • Lead villain - Sigourney Weaver
My hope is that after The Defenders we'll see more direct crossovers and references in the individual series to each other--it would certainly seem odd if that's not the case after the team-up.

Inhumans (September 4, 2017)


This is an ABC show, but it has similarities to the Netflix format, with an eight-episode season, as well as Iron Fist's Scott Buck coming in as the showrunner--a nice pat on the back to Buck, indicating Marvel is happy with his as-yet unseen Netflix work.  The first two episodes getting a short-run (two weeks) in theaters, which is an interesting idea (with Imax wanting more deals like this).  Because it's an ABC property, I'd expect Agents of SHIELD references; it remains to be seen if it will also directly reference either the Netflix or movie properties (I think at best we'll get easter eggs).

Jessica Jones 2 (late 2017/early 2018)


The second season was ordered in January (2016), with filming commencing immediately after The Defenders.  We don't have a definitive release date once it wraps, and should take comments about that (saying 2018) with a grain of salt because the same date was initially given for The Punisher.  Recent comments from Netflix suggest that it could appear in late 2017 (given its filming schedule that's feasible--that date may have been confirmed recently).

Looking ahead, I can't imagine the show will follow the known comic book arc of her character (I say "known" as Brian Michael Bendis has just started a new series for her).  Showrunner Melissa Rosenberg has said it will focus on Jessica and Trish's friendship, which is something without comic book precedent.  In the comics Jessica Jones fades into the background as Luke Cage's partner (and as a mother)--not fertile territory for an independent woman dealing with the trauma of Kilgrave.  Bendis' new series has her becoming a detective again, but it's uncertain how much (if any) impact that will have on the show.  From the hints at the end of the first season it seems like IGH--with its connections to Jessica, Will Simpson, and Luke Cage--could play a prominent role in what happens (along with, perhaps, Trish becoming Hellcat--something her actor would like to see).  Oddly, despite having Luke Cage as a major part of the first season, his actions in Jessica Jones had almost no impact on his own series, which makes me wonder about the romance between Luke and Jessica (given that the shows will want to maintain their distinct identities, I wonder if she'll have different romantic partners--as, indeed, she does in the comics).

This is a bit tangential, but there's an interesting interview with Brian Michael Bendis reflecting on the adaptation of Jessica Jones that I think is well worth reading (he's a big fan of the series).

Daredevil 3 (2018?)


The sequel was ordered in July (2016), but with an unstated film date.  The 2018 release confirmation is via the same shaky ground as mentioned above (CBR, link below, thinks it will be in 2017), but with no production date known for now it's all just guesswork.

More and more it seems like we'll get Kingpin as the main villain--Vincent D'Onofrio's latest comments appear to confirm it.  Perhaps we'll also see iconic Daredevil antagonist Bullseye, a character Charlie Cox would like to see.  If this is the case, it would seem like The Defenders dispense with the Hand as an eminent threat.

Luke Cage 2 (likely 2018)


The second season was recently announced (December), but with no film date set.  I think it will appear in 2018 (I doubt Netflix wants to wait more than two years between seasons).  Diamondback is alive at the end of the first season and I have to think showrunner Cheo Hodari Coker wants to do something with him.  Similarly, Mariah and Shades remain in power, so there's plenty of leftover villains.  Despite those remaining, I believe we'll see more added.  Here are Comicbook.com's suggested antagonists:
  • Nightshade - originally a Captain America villain (1973), she briefly became an antagonist of Luke Cage and Iron Fist when she ran a crime syndicate via robots (Power Man and Iron Fist 51-53); in a much later issue (110), she's part of a supervillain team trying to break up Jeryn Hogarth's wedding; subsequently she becomes a hero fighting alongside Misty Knight in the Villains for Hire mini-series and then partners up with Nighthawk; none of this seems like particularly interesting Luke Cage story material
  • Tombstone - a Spider-Man villain (1988) from Harlem who has since battled virtually everyone; in Cage (2-4) he's simply hired muscle, while in the current run of Power Man and Iron Fist (1-4) he's a pawn in a plan by Black Mariah and White Jennie to get their hands on the Super Soul Stone; none of this seems like fertile material to work with
  • Bushmaster - the first version of the character was an Iron Fist villain (1977); his initial arc is actually a Misty Knight story that winds up involving Cage and Iron Fist--she's trying to infiltrate the criminal syndicate he works for and has to blow her cover to save Danny Rand from Steel Serpent; once that's resolved the pair have to fend off Luke himself as he's being blackmailed in order to save a kidnapped Claire Temple and Noah Burstein (you can read the storyline in Iron Fist 15, Marvel Team-Up 63-64, and Powerman 48-49); the second Bushmaster, incidentally, was a Captain America villain (1985) who has become an all-purpose antagonist; he only interacts with Luke in the Villains for Hire mini-series; I think there's potential in the first Bushmaster's storyline
  • Master of the World - originally an Alpha Flight villain (1983) with a very light history against Cage (a single story arc from John Ostrander's short-lived run in Heroes for Hire 1-5, 8, 10-12), but that's part of a very different group (more Avengers-like than the usual Danny, Luke, Misty, and Colleen); this is another odd choice (if it worked anywhere it would be as a Defenders storyline)
  • Chemistro - specifically the third to use this name (Calvin Carr, created in 1983), he's an original Luke Cage villain (Power Man and Iron Fist 93); his initial storyline (93-96) has elements that might appeal to Coker (issues of race--with Cage being called a tool of the white man ("Oreo for Hire")), but the villain himself has very simple motivation; his only other interaction is when Luke is part of the New Avengers, but there he's simply part of the Hood's criminal gang
In season one Coker showed an affinity for Cage's early villains and if he wants to stick to that then only Bushman and Chemistro (from the above) fit the bill (all versions of Chemistro are original Cage villains, incidentally).  There's not much depth to Chemistro as a character, although there are story elements Coker might like.  Bushman's story is much more complex and involves other cast members from the show (Claire Temple, Misty Knight, and Doctor Burstein, for instance), albeit he also is essentially just a criminal, so layers would need to be added.

A final observation that's come from reading a lot of Luke Cage material: it's interesting how much more integrated his stories are with Iron Fist than the reverse.  I think this has something to do with the bizarre nature of Danny's origins and the much more straightforward arc of Cage.

Iron Fist 2 (presumably 2019)


Iron Fist would need to bomb spectacularly to not get another season, so I think that even if the response in March is lukewarm we'll get one more season.

Potential Cameos in MCU Films

The Netflix stars all have contracts that include potential movie appearances, but given all the acrimony between Kevin Feige and Ike Perlmutter (see part one of this series), crossovers continue to seem unlikely, albeit the ebullient and optimistic Jeph Loeb keeps hinting at them.  I thought it would be worthwhile to see where such cameos could occur if they are ever going to happen.  I've organised the movie releases chronologically:
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (May): there's no chance; the film takes place in space and has far too much to do regardless (with new characters etc)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (July): no chance; while Peter Parker conveniently lives in New York, this is a character-establishing movie with far too much to do for a cameo (introducing all his supporting characters and so on)
Thor: Ragnarok (November): another busy movie mostly taking place off of earth with the Hulk co-starring; Thor will be in New York searching for Odin, but it's clear his only interaction with another hero will be with Doctor Strange
Black Panther (February, 2018): another establishing movie like Spider-Man, so even if the action isn't completely confined to Wakanda, I see no chance for cameos here
Avengers Infinity War (May, 2018) - principal photography begins in January, so that's alongside The Defenders; Kevin Feige has said it won't happen (just like no deal with Sony, right?), but of all the possibilities this film (or its sequel in May of 2019) are the most likely for cameos--they are big team-up movies and with everyone available to appear in them it's the best possibility (travelling between New York and Atlanta, where the filming for each is occurring, is not a big deal); that said, I think it's unlikely to happen (both Ant-Man and the Wasp (July 2019) and Captain Marvel (March 2019) have far too much to do for cameos)

Other Possible Netflix Series


Among the many characters rumoured to appear on Netflix one of the most consistent is Moon Knight.  Often compared to Batman (although Marvel's direct pastiche of the Dark Knight is Nighthawk), and having a varied history (see Moon Knight Explained), a version of him could work (and, to my mind, is more appealing than the various other proposed characters).  Looper goes through the potential issues of a Moon Knight movie, as well as the struggles he could have on Netflix.  Moon Knight rumours go back to October in 2013, with further talk a year later in 2014, and then in May of 2016 (included as a Netflix possibility along with Ghost Rider, who instead appeared on Agents of SHIELD, and Blade, who remains in limbo).


A version of the New Warriors is apparently being shopped around, featuring a lineup that consists of Ms. Marvel, Squirrel Girl, Speedball, Justice, Night Thrasher, and Rage.  Netflix is one of the interested parties, although there's no guarantee it will happen at all.  Thematically it seems similar in tone to what's been attempted with the Runaways and Cloak and Dagger properties (teen-oriented), which is interesting given that originally the New Warriors dealt with more adult-themes than was usual.


Runaways (Hulu (ABC), 2017)
Not a Netflix property, but I thought I'd mention it; other than an ordered pilot and scripts written by Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage (neither of whom have prior ties to Marvel), there's been virtually no information about the show (apparently Iron Fist writer Tamara Becher has also been hired to write).  Much like the New Warriors above, it will be aimed at a younger audience.


Cloak and Dagger (Freeform (ABC), winter 2018)
Also not on Neflix, but with at least one connection (Joe Pokaski is the showrunner, having served as a writer on Daredevil season one).  As a duo that were created largely as an anti-drug message, it seems likely the show will focus more on their love story as they target a younger audience.

General Sources

Information for my work comes from a wide variety of sources--most obviously from the shows themselves, as well as their comic inspirations (for those I'm largely dependent on Marvel Unlimited, which I highly recommend).  There's also the very handy Marvel Wiki for quick references.  I've included some others for those interested.

Daredevil Explained (Comics Explained)
Daredevil Season One Easter Eggs (ComicBookCast2)
Daredevil Season One Easter Eggs (Mr Sunday Movies)
Jessica Jones Explained (Comics Explained)
Jessica Jones Easter Eggs (Flicks and the City)
Jessica Jones Easter Eggs (Mr Sunday Movies)
Jessica Jones Easter Eggs (Den of Geek)
Daredevil/Elektra Explained (Comics Explained)
Punisher Explained (Comics Explained)
Daredevil Season Two Easter Eggs (Flicks and the City)
Daredevil Season Two Easter Eggs (ComicBookCast2)
Luke Cage Explained (Comics Explained)
Luke Cage Breakdown (New Rockstars)
Iron Fist/Danny Rank Explained (Comics Explained)
Iron Fist Trailer Breakdown (New Rockstars)
Iron Fist Trailer Breakdown (IGN)
The Defenders Explained (Comics Explained)
Defenders Comic Con Teaser (New Rockstars)

[If you spot any errors or omissions, please let me know!]

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)