Marvel News

Some people are claiming Audi has spoiled the rescue of Tony Stark by announcing a virtual experience called "Marvel’s Avengers: Rocket’s Rescue Run." Does this spoil how he's saved? It's possible, but even if Rocket does rescue someone, there's no guarantee that it's Tony. The problem Rocket would have in making the rescue is that he lacks a ship--he came via Thor and the Bifrost. I don't think finding the Benatar itself is much of a problem (he can probably track it). Clearly he could make a ship, but doing so in time to save Tony seems unlikely.

Kevin Feige has vaguely confirmed that the clips shown in the trailer are from earlier in the film (he was asked if it was the first 15 minutes; Jeremy Conrad--the link--argues it's from the first half hour).

A 4chan post that was quickly deleted is making the rounds--the poster claims to be working on the VFX for Avengers: Endgame and this is what he claims about the movie:

• Hawkeye's daughter is the only one who was Snapped and this creates a rift with his wife so he becomes a mercenary and it is in that capacity that he's fighting the Yakuza
• Nebula will have a significant role (something hinted at in other leaks)
• Marvel has contingencies to include Easter Eggs for the Fox properties (but just that--hints--this is the most I'd expect, as I've mentioned before, but given the time frame below I don't see how its possible)
• Mjolnir will return and be wielded by both Thor and Captain America (there have been a number of rumours about the latter, although this is scarcely surprising given that Cap does that in the source material)
• Vision returns, but in a regressed state (like his personality from Age of Ultron)
• There are 'wish-fulfillment' scenarios depicted, mostly in epilogue form: the founding of New Asgard, the wedding of Tony and Pepper, Wanda and Vision rebuilding their relationship, T'Challa crowned again (the first two have been hinted elsewhere); this is oddly phrased, because 'wish-fulfillment' implies it's not real, but 'epilogue' implies it's how the movie ends, so...not sure exactly what's meant here
• Seeds are planted for future Doctor Strange and Ant-Man movies
• Tony's arc heavily mirrors the first Iron Man
• Peter Quill does not return to Earth (I find this an odd thing to note)
• The Stones are not destroyed, but scattered and given to those who can protect them (something that echoes the source material)
• The film is more character-driven--fewer big epic battles
• Time travel will be used as a tool to circumvent resurrection, but without heavy continuity impacts like in Back to the Future

The most interesting thing out of all this is the last--it fits my idea that we won't have one of the Avengers Snap everyone back in existence, but rather they will prevent the Snap from happening in the first place. Grabbing pre-Snapped versions of characters is not something I'd considered, but it's plausible (albeit I'd need more to believe it).  I'm not surprised that the Russo's don't want to impact the continuity of previous MCU movies--one thing Marvel has done well that no other cinematic universe has is keep up with their continuity. That said, there's nothing specific about this that makes it anymore plausible than any other speculation as yet.

We all remember the speculation and debate over what the title of the fourth Avengers film would be prior to the official reveal. When Conrad, who'd claimed it was Annihilation, received an indirect slap in the face from Kevin Feige, who revealed the title was in place as they were developing the film (so back in 2016). This means Conrad's explanation of constantly shifting titles is simply mistaken.

After the toy leak suggesting Jude Law was playing Mar-Vell it's been clarified by Marvel that he is, indeed, Yon-Rogg. The second trailer dropped for the film as well; this one (just like the first full trailer) continues to try to explain the plot, but clearly Marvel is responding to the complaints from the initial teaser that Captain Marvel seemed humourless, because there's an increased focus on the humour of the film. I'm still getting used to Brie Larson's voice--I think in context (the movie) it will be fine.

There's been another purported leak about Spider-Man: Far From Home that echoes some things we've heard before, so let's go through it:

• Tony Stark is dead
• Four elemental enemies (sand, water, stone, and lava)
• Mysterio is the main villain
• Chameleon is the secondary villain
• Peter spends most of his time in a SHIELD stealth suit
• Final fight is between Peter and Mysterio
• Leading into the final fight Mysterio beats Spider-Man and compromises SHIELD
• Relationship between Peter and Nick Fury a focus
• Mysterio uses Chitauri tech; Peter has to ask Vulture for help to find him
• No helicarrier
• Peter is depressed and doesn't want to be Spider-Man anymore, but realizes being an Avenger is always about 'rebuilding' himself like Tony did
• Movie ends with Peter and Michelle in a relationship
• There's a love triangle prior to this involving Alistair Smythe (as well as a love triangle between Flash, Ned, and Betty)
• Aunt May and Happy are dating

So let's go through this piece by piece:

• Speculation that Tony dies in Avengers: Endgame is something I predicted back in March and rumours to that effect did the rounds in December; how does it jive with a wedding between he and Pepper (above)? It doesn't--there's still no clear clue which rumour is true
• We know the elemental villains are involved due to descriptions from the trailer shown at CCXP; I noted last time that Charlie had referred to the 'sand' elemental as 'Earth' and, speculating that such a designation made more sense, that 'lava' is more likely Fire. Regardless, there's been more than enough evidence to support the existence of these elemental enemies (two of them, Hydro Man and Molten Man, have been confirmed through toy leaks)
• Mysterio's role was confirmed long ago
• We've heard nothing about the Chameleon since his casting was announced back in July, but this leak would imply more than simply a cameo
• Set pictures of Tom Holland in the SHIELD suit are around, but how much time he spends in it isn't something I'd heard before
• Both the final fight and the prelude seem pretty obvious (and matches the pattern of the first Spider-Man film vs the Vulture)
• Peter's reluctance makes sense out of the CCXP descriptions that mention Fury having to recruit him--if he was an active Avenger, there would presumably be no need for recruitment. It's also a change for him, as up until now he's always been an enthusiastic Spider-Man.
• Love triangles are the cliche of cliches for anything teen-oriented; Smythe is someone we heard about via a 4chan rumour back in May (no one else has mentioned this, lending at least some credence to that post)
• Happy and Aunt May was officially confirmed (can't remember if it was prior to CCXP or during).

Could this be true? It's plausible, although putting this together wouldn't be hard for someone paying attention to rumours. There's nothing in it that immediately debunks it. Going back to that 4chan post, much of it is now confirmed, but the element that interested me the most (the appearance of Jessica Drew) remains unmentioned anywhere else.

THS is reporting a rumour that the Loki TV show will focus on Kid Loki (a version of the character I'm unfamiliar with, but is apparently popular in the comics). Or are they? That's how those reporting on the report are relaying it, but let's look at the actual words of the report:

While I was unable to confirm it with a second source, I was told that Marvel Studios might be taking an interesting approach to their Loki series. It’s been reported that Tom Hiddleston will return to reprise the role of Loki, but it seems that the series may find him narrating the events of his own life, presumably from the afterlife (Valhalla) following his death at the hands of Thanos in Avengers: Infinity War. This opens up all sorts of story-telling possibilities and is consistent with the original reporting on the show which indicated it could take place at any time during Loki’s considerably long life.

Fans of the comics will know that Loki has died and come back to life many times in many different forms, among them Kid Loki who interacted with the Young Avengers. Should the studio cast a younger actor or two in the role, it certainly does not preclude Hiddleston from doing more than narrating. Who knows what the God of Mischief has up his sleeve?

Let's be clear: the rumour is Hiddleston narrating the show. That's it--and it's a rumour from just one source. All the rest is speculation. It certainly sounds like a Disney move (not a positive in my book), but I'll reserve judgement until we see it. I would not be surprised if Hiddleston is simply a narrator however, as taking the time to shoot an eight-episode TV show is likely not what he wants to do at this stage of his career.

Discussing Film, a site I've never heard of, is claiming the Disney streaming service is going to launch a Lady Sif show. Jaime Alexander is currently committed to Blindspot on NBC, but ratings for the fourth season are horrible so she could be available. Regardless, I'd treat this as speculation until we've heard more about it.

After posting my previous article a lengthy interview with Kevin Feige dropped where he said the following:

We’ve been told it’s [the purchase of Fox] looking very, very good and could happen in the first six months of next year. The notion of the characters coming back is great. It’s nice when a company that created all these characters can have access to all those characters. It’s unusual not to. But in terms of actually thinking about it and actually planning things, we haven’t started that yet.

Somehow this bred articles claiming that Feige said they would be working on films for these characters within the next six months. This is obviously false, but I do take issue with another idea that's come up about this statement: that there will be a long delay in working on these properties once they are re-acquired--this is simply absurd. Disney spent a fortune to acquire the IP; we know the MCU has spec scripts for this eventuality (just as they did for Spider-Man), and I expect work to commence on them the moment the sale is finalized (I covered this in my X-Men Speculation article back in October). We'll see some of these characters in 2021 (if not 2020).

Since the above came out Variety reports the deal is expected to be finalized in March, which fits the parameters Feige mentions above.

Something I want to point out about the Netflix properties as they sail into the sunset: a year ago Ted Sarandos said they owned the IP--we now know that's not true. Netflix was licensing the properties, not purchasing them--those are two very different things. It's one of the reasons the cost of producing the shows was high (paying fees to Marvel for rights).

A stray thought I had in the aftermath of Aquaman: One of the bizarre consistencies of all the DCEU films is that they feature weak plots--this has come from a diverse group of writers and directors and isn't derived from the source material. Presumably at the corporate level no one thinks its important. Just to briefly go over just some of the issues at hand:
1) Superman can't think of any other way to defeat Zod other than killing him
2) Lex Luthor: what is his motivation? How does his plan mesh with his complaint about Superman?
3) The premise of Suicide Squad (how are any of its members supposed to tackle a Superman-level threat?)
4) Wonder Woman was persuaded to come out of hiding to help with WWI, but doesn't have a problem with WW2?
5) Not much about Aquaman makes sense, but let's start with the trident that his brother doesn't believe in: there's a pile of Atlantean bodies who have tried to retrieve it, statues with the guy holding it, etc, so where does his doubt come from? A more fun one is the renaissance statue in Italy used by a guy who died thousands of years earlier
I don't have a theory attached to this--it's not like there's an intent to have bad plots (and Wonder Woman's isn't as badly mangled as the others), but it is odd how consistently mediocre-to-bad the writing of the films has been.

This is slightly tangential from my usual focus, but there was an interesting expose last month that explored Internet metrics. It's apparent that many of the numbers (views etc) are faked--either through bots or by providers themselves. This kind of thing, on a small scale, is something I think is common knowledge, but knowing that on a macro scale this is happening means we have to take raw numbers with a large grain of salt. The article is worth reading in its entirety.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

Marvel News

Best of the holidays to everyone--I hope it has been a happy one for you all.

We've had yet another toy leak showing sets coming out for the movie and these (translated roughly from Romanian by the poster) are: Captain America against Outrider; War Machine Crusher; Iron Man Armour Room; Avengers Super Quinjet; Battle of Assembled Avengers. These are listed by price from lowest to highest. Assuming this is real it's so vague I don't think it tells us much (the inclusion of an Outrider puzzles me). The only information that stands out is simply the final one, a battle with the assembled Avengers which (if true) would match the 'everyone scene' that I've covered before.

A recent popular Reddit thread painstakingly tries to give each Avenger with a solo film an arc that matches their first film, which I think misses the point of the Russo's revisiting films from the past (see the link above). We aren't going to see exact parallels from those stories--character growth should mean no exact imitations from the past.

Just as I was about to post more promo leaks dropped for Captain Marvel and what's interesting is the name used for Jude Law's character: Mar-Vell. Remember that less than a month ago a toy leak listed him as Yon-Rogg, so what are we to make of the contradiction? I can think of many ideas, from the simple one that someone faked one or the other, to the character having two identities (hell, he could even be a skrull). All I'll safely say is the toy company is not going to list a name unless it is given to them, so either both are correct and he has two identities or one is wrong--what that will mean we'll have to wait and see.

When I was talking about the Spider-Man: Far From Home trailer shown at CCXP (which, after the fact, Sony decided not to release publicly), one of the curious villains mentioned in the descriptions was Sandman. It was hard to imagine such an iconic character being thrown in with these very generic 'elemental' villains (as I mentioned at the time). It turns out that the initial description is likely wrong and simply due to a shot that's shown. Charlie (not an original thinker, keep in mind) said the elemental villains consists of: Earth, Water, Wind, and Fire (he says Lava, but that doesn't fit the theme). This would make a lot more sense than having one of Spider-Man's iconic villains lumped in with rent-a-thugs.

The toy leak mentioned above also included sets from Far From Home and these are much more interesting. Hydro Man and Molten Man are confirmed as such, and more interestingly: 'Stark's plane and drone attack.' Why is Stark tech there? Is it related to Pepper Potts? Has Mysterio infected that tech? It raises some interesting questions that can't be answered until we know more.

Disney's Kevin Mayer, chief architect of the deal to buy Fox, has been shifted to run the company's streaming service. I bring this up only to point out that, if the deal had ever been in serious jeopardy, it's unlikely Mayer would have been released of that duty back in March.

After writing the above NBC reported that the deal is expected to be finalized in January. If this is true we can put to bed the lugubrious comments from luminaries like Campea and Charlie who have been so irrationally conservative about when (and for the former, if) the deal was going to happen. This would also come close to matching my original expectation of December (which Deadline's echoed in October).

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse wound up making 35 million in its opening weekend, hitting the middle of projections. It experienced a 53% drop in week two (16.6 million), which isn't bad considering the competition. For the movie to break even it needs to hit at least 180 million, so will have to rely on smaller drops domestically and overseas to do so (it's at 64.3 in the latter case). It has an overall total of 138 million through Tuesday, making it unlikely to break even (undoubtedly, on home release, it will turn a profit). I bring this up because I still only see unending praise for the film with Sony talking about sequels and spinoffs--as I mentioned before, I really wonder how many (if any) of those efforts will actually come to the big screen if the film can't turn a profit in theaters.

I saw Aquaman on opening day and wanted to share my thoughts on it: the film suffers from a terrible script and bloated plot (David Leslie Johnson-McGoldrik and Will Beall were the writers--neither is distinguished and both better known for TV); the leads have no chemistry and the film ignores its set-up in Justice League; like virtually all DC movies begs the question of why doesn't Superman solve this problem? Despite what should be crippling problems the film was the most fun DC venture thus far (keeping in mind I've never seen Man of Steel, although even fans of that film don't call it 'fun'). There's something absurdly entertaining in how ridiculous it all is, with an undercurrent of frustration of how much better the film could have been with better writing. The movie seems on target to make enough money to warrant a sequel at least (556.8 thus far), so James Wan (if he wants to do it) has a chance to improve the franchise. There's no sign in it, incidentally, that Warner Brothers has figured out how to make their superhero universe work (no set-up for Shazam, no meaningful nods to the rest of the DCEU, etc).

The interesting experiment called Once Upon a Deadpool (the re-release of Deadpool 2 cut for a PG-13 with 20 minutes of additional footage) has finished its planned 12-day release, grossing 5.94 million. This is, I suspect, a disappointment for Fox and Ryan Reynolds (the money will be added to the gross of the original, which doesn't shift it's all-time position among comicbook films). It was an interesting experiment to see if Deadpool can work in a PG-setting, but I don't think Deadpool 2 is beloved enough to intrigue people.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

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I mentioned back in April that one possibility for Avengers: Endgame was that Tony Stark would serve as our stand-in for the Uncle Ben moment for Spider-Man. If you think about their dialogue, especially in Homecoming and Infinity War, Tony has taken on a fatherly persona and, given Ben's visible absence, he's the one who could carry that same emotional weight. This theory has suddenly popped up everywhere (Reddit, What Culture, Comicbook.com, etc). As gratified as I am that others have picked up on it, I still have reservations about it: Peter Parker is already motivated to do good, so unlike the traditional Uncle Ben he doesn't need Tony to provide him with a moral compass (I went through other reasons Tony might die in my speculation article back in October).

Two ideas I came up with after posting my article about the teaser:
1) When discussing possible plans Cap is acting on in the teaser, another could be going into space to rescue Tony is certainly one of them (it's also possible the trailer is cut in such a way that he's discussing what to do after Ant-Man arrives and is aware of the Time Vortexes in the Quantum Realm)
2) Scott Lang is wearing the same outfit in the trailer that matches the leaked photos of him seen running through neighbourhoods during filming--there's no sign of Luis' van in the latter, so it's difficult to place the photos into the timeline

There's something about human nature that attracts us to speculative theories--JFK's assassination, ancient aliens, the Bilderberg Group, etc. When the Avengers: Endgame trailer landed it shook Marvel pundits to the core as it attacked the flash forward/time-jump theory. Our good friend Charlie is doing his best to keep the vestiges of that theory (the five-year gap) alive. The loudest proponents (like Jeremy Conrad) have opted largely for radio silence (I'll get more into that below).

Charlie is, to some extent, a realist in the cited video: there's no denying the scenes of Iron Man and Captain America take place shortly after the Snapture (at most months later, but no more than that and likely much less). This means the film does not and cannot begin years later as the original theory proposed (Conrad's post mocking any other opinion is still up). Regardless, Charlie clings to the flash forward, so how does he do it?

The text on the top left might read: "Strat 1983: Archive" (the year cited is not definitive and I've seen it argued that it actually reads "IS03" or "1503"; if the year is wrong then Charlie's argument, shared by others, completely falls apart). I looked into the acronym and the only "STRAT" that might fit is "Strategic Planning System" (assuming it's something not invented for the MCU). Charlie's logic here is pretty simple: Scott Lang is in 1983 and leaving a message that, for some reason, Cap is replaying in 2018 or 19.

This simple supposition has one basic problem: it includes Luis' van. As I mentioned last time the van did not enter the Quantum Realm with Ant-Man, so what is he doing with it? The van is a 1972 Ford Ecoline, so it certainly exists in 1983, but the only reason Scott Lang would be driving around with it is if it still has the Quantum machine Hank Pym built in the back (as it was at the end of Ant-Man and the Wasp). This means the van has to be from that time period or later and not from 1983. So what is Charlie's solution?

His theory is that Ant-Man escapes the Quantum Realm through a Time Vortex (cf Ant-Man and the Wasp) and arrives forward in time. He retrieves the van in the future (it's either unmolested or he's simply able to retrieve it and the machine). He then gets the assistance of a surviving Avenger (Tony Stark or Bruce Banner presumably) who help him figure out how to bring the van with him into the Quantum Realm. Scott then takes the van and somehow lands in 1983, apparently unaware of the fact (how that would be I don't know, but he's clearly unaware because he asks Cap to buzz him in). If he's in 1983, this means has to travel through time again to meet the Avengers in the present of the film Charlie imagines (years later).

To say this is convoluted is putting it mildly. Just to make it clear, here are the steps:

• 1) Ant-Man escapes the Quantum Realm via a Time Vortex and winds up in the future; keep in mind that we know from Ant-Man that escaping the Quantum Realm only requires him to grow large which (as of Civil War) he can do by simply using the arm bands of his suit (rather than the disk he originally used via Hank Pym)
• 2) Ant-Man's van/machine are unmolested in that future (either together or separately) and he's able to retrieve both (why he needs the van and not just the machine I have no idea)
• 3) Someone in the future helps Ant-Man figure out how to use the machine while it remains inside the van
• 4) Ant-Man uses the machine alone and goes through another Time Vortex, but misses the mark and lands in 1983 where he leaves a message for the Avengers at what would have then been a Stark warehouse (cf Ant-Man)--this odd occurrence goes unremarked at the time, but the recording is preserved for the next 36 years
• 5) Captain America et al for some reason go through the old security camera footage after the Snapture (how this occurs is beyond me--just imagine the dialogue, "Hey Nat, let's re-watch old recordings from the Stark Warehouse door-cam to drown our sorrows")
• 6) Ant-Man travels through another Time Vortex (despite Janet Van Dyne's warnings about the danger they pose) to meet the Avengers in whatever present Charlie imagines (the five-year jump perhaps)

This frankly doesn't make much sense. Charlie (and others) are falling victim to confirmation bias: they believe there's a time jump, so they are looking for any and all evidence that can prove it. The idea includes three time jumps by Ant-Man before we truly get into the story (to the future, the past, and then the present). The audience doesn't need an Avenger to 'figure out' the Quantum machine--it's a problem that's already been solved in Ant-Man and the Wasp.

So why do Charlie (and others) have so much attachment to the flash forward theory? It boils down to three things and I'll quickly go through them (they are also discussed here):

• 1) Casting: THS reported (in a post now removed) that actress Emma Fuhrmann had been cast to play an aged-up version of Cassie Lang (Fuhrmann is 16, while original actress Abby Ryder Forston is 10); this has never been confirmed by anyone else (or denied), unless you count IMDB; subsequently Umberto Gonzalez reported that Katherine Longford was cast in the film in an undisclosed role and Conrad added the rumour that she's playing the adult daughter of Tony and Pepper (how this jives with the notion below of a baby I don't know)--no one else that I've seen has backed this theory; finally, there was a casting call for twins for the film and Conrad believes this could only be for Tony/Pepper's baby (the assumption being no one else in the film would have one)
• 2) Gwyneth Paltrow comments: she gave an interview for the official magazine leading into Infinity War with this particular quote causing all the fuss: "[N]ow a decade later they're married, and they have a child." People initially jumped all over the 'decade later' part, claiming it meant since the first Avengers (ie 2012), but it's obvious from the context (and simple logic) she meant since the first Iron Man (2008). The married with a child element, however, remains and I'll get into that below
• 3) Hair styles/custom changes: Cap's shaved beard, Nat's longer red hair with blond tips, Tony's blond hair; along with Hulk's suit in the concept/toy art

Let's deal with #2 first: keeping in mind that Paltrow is not the most mentally balanced human being, during Infinity War her major scene was discussing the wedding with Tony and a hypothetical child--she may well be confused enough to think those two elements were a tangible fact. More simply (and likely) is that Endgame ends with the a marriage and a child--the latter does not require much of a shift forward in time (indeed, it works perfectly well for the film to occur in 2019) and would fit the oft-rumoured scene featuring everyone from the MCU

I think we can quickly dismiss the hair and costume elements (#3) as largely superfluous. The only one that genuinely requires time is Widow's longer hair, but by itself it doesn't mean much (we don't know the context--is it an end credit scene?). The changes themselves are a very normal process of making the film distinct from its predecessor (as well as making it easier to sell new toys/ merchandise).

Finally is the casting (#1): we have no clue who Longford is playing and no secondary confirmation about Fuhrmann. Is it possible the team sees visions of the future? Of course, but that doesn't require time travel (we saw visions in Age of Ultron without that, after all).

Beyond these specifics there are just more and more problems with the idea. Janet Van Dyne warned Scott to avoid the Time Vortexes because they were dangerous and since he doesn't need one to escape the Quantum Realm, why would he use it for that purpose? There's also Nat's response to Cap in the teaser: "It's the front door," which only makes sense in the present (otherwise the response is "yes," because she was asked if its a recording).

The final blow to the underlying premise of a five-year (or at least years) gap is that the film is supposed to start that way (ie forward in time, something professed by both Conrad and his buddy Daniel). The teaser absolutely refutes this. What remains are whatever fragments can be preserved from that idea, but on a story-level there's really no room for 'time passes' once your starting point is the present. The universe is broken and that requires resolution--there's no point in paging Captain Marvel if her arrival doesn't signify immediate help. I want to be clear that I still believe time travel is an important element in the film and the team will undoubtedly use a Time Vortex, I'm only refuting the basic idea that Endgame included a five-year (or similar) gap.

 

If Aquaman can perform well outside of China, what (if any) impact does that have on the use of Namor in the MCU? I mentioned that the change in tone of the DCEU character (away from Snyder's dark version) helps the MCU by creating space for him to be distinctive, but could Aquaman do so well as to make Namor seem like a pale imitation? I think it might preclude an Atlantis-based storyline (since so much of Aquaman's action seems tied to that), but it was unlikely that would have been the MCU's approach anyway. I still believe that if he appears it will be as an antagonist in other films--The Fantastic Four perhaps, although it could be elsewhere. I forgot, in my previous piece, to mention that the use of Jason Momoa (rather than a blond-haired, blue-eyed actor ala the comics) makes the anticipated Asian race-swap for Namor slightly less of a selling-point (although the odds of a Caucasian actor were always virtually zero since Marvel has so few prominent Asian characters to put on screen--thus the Shang-Chi film).

Amidst the press for Spider-Man into the Spider-verse was this buried comment from Amy Pascal:

I think about crying [should the Sony-Marvel arrangement end]. I can only hope for a future where things work out. I’ve known Kevin since he was Avi’s very, very quiet assistant, who for many years sat in that room listening to us and being so much smarter than any of us without any of us realizing. I will say that working with Marvel has been one of the highlights of my professional career.

There's nothing surprising about Sony wanting to maintain the arrangement with Marvel. The trick will be that Sony wants their films to be part of the MCU and Feige does not. Sony also needs the MCU more than Marvel needs Spider-Man. The MCU can carry on just fine without Sony's properties--with the Fox IP returning, Tom Holland could fade off into Sony's very chaotic sunset until the company has to crawl back to Marvel. In essence, it's much more difficult for Sony to end the arrangement than it is for Marvel and the loss for Sony would be far larger. The negotiations may drag on for awhile, but I fully expect the arrangement to continue.

Speaking of the animated feature, high critical scores and hype have pushed the opening tracking towards 40 million, but it's still hard to imagine the film making much money. With a 90 million budget (excluding marketing) and Aquaman coming out next week, I have to wonder if Sony will actually put sequels/spinoffs into theaters in the future.

As the sun continues to set on the Marvel Netflix shows (oddly enough the starting point not just for this blog but also for Youtube's Midnight's Edge), we've learned that the deal between the two companies means there is a  two-year waiting period from cancellation before the character's can be used again by Disney. In the grand scheme of things this doesn't matter much, but it does mean no Daredevil until 2020 at the earliest. This may not apply to the Punisher (whose show drops in January), as he was not part of the original framework, but I don't imagine the MCU will ever use him, so that's a moot point.

I just wanted to touch on the ridicule that has been heaped upon both Conrad and his buddy Daniel RPK when some of their loud predictions crashed and burned. Excluding the usual 'mad-on-the-internet' crowd, the vitriol has nothing to do with the duo being wrong, but the fact that they behaved like asshats towards anyone who disagreed with them prior to the trailer. There's no reason for them to act that way and their behaviour is what's made the backlash as strong as it is.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

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After what feels like an eternity the teaser for Avengers 4 has finally dropped (roughly a year after the Infinity War teaser). With it we at last had the title reveal: Avengers: Endgame, which doesn't seem to spoil anything (as we'd been told it would).  I, like many people, dismissed that it would be the title precisely because it wasn't a 'mild spoiler' (the Russo's also denied it was the title months ago). Jeremy Conrad, who has made a huge fuss over the title being Annihilation, has decided the title was always in flux and therefore, no error was made. Conrad, it seems, does not make mistakes--I'm not infallible myself, so I'm not sure how that feels.

Speaking of being wrong, thus far it appears that all the trailer leaks were incorrect. There's almost no substance to the teaser at all, opening with Iron Man and Nebula seemingly adrift in space aboard the Benatar (the Guardians ship)--Tony making what he thinks is a last message for Pepper. Many have noted that Tony's outfit and look in this scene echoes that of his from the very first Iron Man. We then briefly revisit Thanos on his farm before heading to the Avengers facility (I'm incredulous at how much fuss people are making over what appears to be a few weeks without lawn maintenance--if you look at previous images it's difficult to detect much change). We then see what looks like Captain America, Hulk, Thor, and Black Widow discussing their plan--as this happens we see among the 'missing' is Shuri (heavily implying she was dusted, which makes sense as her abilities are pretty redundant when included with the OG Avengers). This is followed by the Hawkeye-as-Ronin reveal (an alter-ego we've known about via leaked photos from a year ago); he's being recruited or collected by Black Widow. Cap is seen wearing his Winter Soldier uniform while looking at a picture of Peggy Carter from the first Captain America. The stinger is Ant-Man arriving at the Avengers base, along with Luis' van, and asking to be buzzed in.

And that's the trailer--the meat of it boils down to just two elements (Iron Man believing he's about to die and Captain America getting ready to enact a bold plan--Ant-Man either interrupts the latter or is the genesis of it). There are a few heroes we know are involved in the film that we don't see: Captain Marvel (excluded for the obvious reason that they don't want to distract from her own film), Rocket (the CGI for him may not be finished), and War Machine. How do we know these three are part of the team? Toy leaks in October that confirmed concept art leaked earlier in the year. Overall I think the teaser was good, if not as evocative as the Infinity War teaser (which is understandable given how much more secrecy there is about the plot). The substance of the teaser is quite different from Infinity War except the stinger, which also aims for both comedy and the introduction of a character/s unseen until that moment (the Guardians in the latter case).

What can we glean from this limited material? There's a growing consensus (which I share) that Captain Marvel will find Iron Man in space. I'm guessing much like the Guardians and Thor in Infinity War she will answer a distress call. This isn't required for Carol Danvers--she could arrive on Earth looking for Nick Fury and come to the earth-based Avengers when she can't find him--just as there are others who could rescue Tony in space (such as Valkyrie or Kraglin)--but given that she's space-based and a bigger character than anyone else who could make the rescue, it makes sense. It's likely Nebula knows who Captain Marvel is given that she's Kree (whether the reverse is true is unknown) [she's actually a Luphomoid, but her knowledge of interstellar space makes it still likely].

From context is appears the heavily rumoured suggestion that Hawkeye's family has been dusted is true (no one else has family to lose, as Cap says in the voice over, even if Bucky and Gamora feel like family to some).

So what is Cap's plan? I think it depends on if this pre-dates Scott Lang's arrival or not. If it does my guess is he wants to find and fight Thanos in order to use the Stones to bring everyone back (what other solution, really, could he have at that point?). Alternatively, he might want to find Tony and rescue him from space (they know that's where he is because he talked to Pepper while on the Q-ship). My guess is the former idea is what's occurring and that the arrival of Ant-Man suddenly opens up new possibilities. Scott arrives with the van that contains the mechanism that opened the doorway into the Quantum Realm for Hank Pym, so the possibility of time travel is suddenly available (a less suicidal route than fighting Thanos in the present).

I've seen a theory that the recording of Ant-Man is from a previous time period (eg), but the evidence for that isn't very strong and what would be the point of him having Luis' van if it's from the past--it needs to be from Ant-Man and the Wasp or it serves no purpose (since it would lack the Quantum Realm device).

That's all I can glean from what was shown, but the teaser does poke holes in the long-cherished five-year gap that Conrad (and others) have been promoting since Infinity War. Let's first acknowledge that there could be trickery in the trailer, but at least on the surface Endgame seems to be happening shortly after the Snapsure--it's difficult to imagine Tony Stark floating in space for any serious length of time (or that his rescue would then include a lengthy return or a 'time passes' moment). It's also highly unlikely Shuri would still be considered 'missing' after years had passed (especially given that the Snap occurs in Wakanda). Scott also says they were in Germany 'a few years ago,' ie, 2016 for Civil War--while this doesn't necessarily pin down the timeframe for Cap, it's suggestive since Lang would have had to make his way to the Avengers building, giving him plenty of time to be aware of current circumstances (ie the time period) and thus he believes it's no later than 2019.

Let's be clear: if the movie opens soon after Infinity War there's no possibility of a time jump. Why? Narrative tension. This is the main reason I've rejected the idea from the start--there's no point in paging Captain Marvel if she's going to take years to arrive or else arrive soon after to no effect--it's just not dramatic.

CCXP, the massive convention in Brazil, has brought us our first footage from Spider-Man: Far From Home. Sony has not publicly released the footage, so we're reduced to descriptions from those who saw it. The footage has greatly clarified the plot, which seems to refute both leaks from back in May (one on Reddit and one on 4Chan). The plot seems to be: Nick Fury recruits Spider-Man while on his class trip in Europe and joins him with hero Mysterio. They are facing off against elemental powers that seem to mimic Sandman, Hydro-Man, and Molten Man (confirming toy leaks in September); we cannot be sure yet if this is the Sandman (ie William Baker). The assumption is that Mysterio is either secretly a villain or becomes one through this process (he could go through a Mordo-like arc ala Doctor Strange).

None of these villains are known as Dmitri, and we know that Numan Acar is playing a character with that name via Deadline in July. If he is Chameleon, as speculated, it's difficult to see where he fits into the film.

Also confirmed is that, at least for Sony, Fury counts as an A-list Avenger (the deal they made with Marvel was that an A-lister would appear in the Spider-Man films). There's no suggestion any bigger name is slated for the film. There's an implication from this--Peter Parker is Tony Stark's surrogate son, so where is Tony in all this? It adds some fuel to the fire that Iron Man won't survive Endgame.

Footage of Captain Marvel was also shown at CCXP--this hasn't been released either, but we have descriptions to work with. The bulk of the footage simply expands on the scene above where Carol Danvers is captured by Talos (leader of the Skrulls); it shows her escaping.

There's some static coming from The South China Morning Post (an English daily in Hong Kong which has a long and colourful history you can read here--it understandably has very limited circulation) about Marvel's plan for a Shang-Chi film (consisting of lazy journalism, which is no surprise--see below). The gist is:

An angry Chinese public is accusing Marvel Studios of insulting China after learning that its first Asian superhero on the big screen will be the son of Fu Manchu, the offensive fictional character who has become a shorthand for racial stereotyping

Let's keep in mind that the 'angry public' cited includes just three direct quotes from China's version of Twitter (two against and one for). The objection isn't even to Shang-Chi, but his association with Sax Rohmer's Fu Manchu (who first appeared in 1912), originally his father. If your first thought is 'why not just eliminate Fu Manchu from the story,' then you've arrived at a solution Marvel has already come to (the comics changed his father to Zheng Zu in 2010). Because of how little known the character is there's really no pressure to stick to any of Shang-Chi's lore regardless. I still have no idea how you make this work as a movie, but who is father is won't be what makes or breaks it.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)

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The Captain Marvel trailer dropped and it had two related purposes: 1) clarify the plot of the film since the teaser apparently confused many (my guesses from the teaser were reasonably on-target), 2) introduce Captain Marvel in preparation for her appearance in Avengers 4. There isn't a lot of new material in the trailer vs the teaser, but the plot is spelled out: Carol Danvers is found by the Kree having lost her memories; the Kree alter her, giving her increased power and longer life; she's caught up in the war between the Kree and Skrulls when she comes to earth and her memories begin to return; Nick Fury helps her recover those memories and it seems as though part of her journey is rejecting her old Kree allies (Yon-Rogg et al) as she resolves the conflict. The trailer was better than the teaser (a general sentiment from what I can tell), but still not in the upper echelon of recent trailers (ala Thor: Ragnarok etc). I'm still getting used to Brie Larson's voice as Danvers (the clipped nature of trailers makes it harder for it to impact me), and while the final affects shown aren't quite as clunky some seen in Black Panther (the fight in the heart of Wakanda and, to a lesser extent, part of the car chase in Korea), I think there's room for refinement. On the whole, however, I think what was shown accomplished what it needed too.

The trailer seems to have ended a feud of sorts between fans--there were complaints about the teaser that Captain Marvel didn't smile/seem happy. This complaint lead to journalists talking about how rarely other characters smiled in promotional material and saying the property was being held to a double standard. Whatever you think the truth is, the marketing folks for the MCU had no interest in fighting the good fight (if that's what that is), nor did the MCU want to go full Ghostbusters or Star Wars and wage war on part of the fanbase, so we see Brie Larson enjoying herself in at least part of the trailer and understand why she's so taciturn otherwise.

You can knock me over with a feather--the David Callaham script we heard about a month ago is for... Shang-Chi? Deadline reports the movie is being fast-tracked (see below) as Disney chases Black Panther money (!; the two properties aren't remotely comparable in terms of their background or their relative impact). Added to the character's obscurity is the difficulty is making a martial arts movie work at the box office. Can the MCU do it? It's possible, but Callaham needs to have one hell of a script to make it happen. I briefly discussed the character back in October, but dismissed him getting his own movie because of how dead the genre is (not martial arts itself--the niche is fine and MMA is very popular--but the the films as popular entertainment--arguably there have been no big hits in the last twenty-years (Rush Hour 2 made the most money at 226 million in 2001, which is 322 in 2018 dollars--just slightly more than an adjusted Incredible Hulk). To summarize the hurdles for this film:

• No one has ever heard of Shang-Chi (this didn't matter for Guardians of the Galaxy, but that's a very different property); his very pedestrian nature was made clear when news about the film didn't trend in North America (or Australia, the UK, Germany, Sweden, Russia, Singapore, Vietnam, the Philippines, Indonesia, Korea, or Japan--after which I stopped checking--this is unlike Captain Marvel whose trailer trended worldwide)
• His gimmick (martial arts) is generic and common--most MCU characters use martial arts
• He's Chinese, not "Asian" (or even "Southeast Asian")--being Chinese does not automatically make him appealing throughout Asia
• There's nothing particularly interesting about his comicbook history; he had stereotypical adventures during the martial arts boom of the 70s/early 80s, but then his comic died and he became a periodic bit player for other, more popular. heroes (never experiencing the renaissance of Iron Fist had ten years ago, for example)

These are all surmountable obstacles, but it's one hell of a mountain to climb. I think he absolutely needs an established character appearing in his film (Doctor Strange would be an obvious choice, but the MCU may want to steer clear of that given the 'controversy' surrounding the first film--and just using Wong would not count as a meaningful addition). Someone this obscure needs at minimum a lead-in from another movie (Black Widow?). The A-list character would participate ala Iron Man in Spider-Man: Homecoming or Hulk in Thor: Ragarok. I take these elements as absolutely necessary for Shang-Chi to succeed as one would expect an MCU-movie to succeed (I have to think one of the lessons learned from Ant-Man and the Wasp is that adding lesser-known characters to a franchise does not give it the boost that adding established characters does).

A final point: why the fast-track? There's no fan demand for this, so why is the MCU in such a hurry?  I've seen arguments that Marvel is aiming hard for the Chinese audience, but they already do incredibly well in China. What I think is going on is related to what I talked about before: putting out three films in 2020. Let's briefly recap the situation:

• 1) Guardians of the Galaxy 3 was moved from 2020, leaving the MCU with just Black Widow and The Eternals on their slate
• 2) Disney wants at least three MCU films a year (supposition on my part, but a safe one)
• 3) With such a short turn around (less than two years) any effects-heavy or star-heavy project is impossible (the former due to time, the latter due to commitments)

A character like Shang-Chi (with his lore) is both inexpensive and relatively quick to do, so what I think happened is that the idea of a film for the character has been floating around the MCU for quite some time, but the sudden need to hurry out a title in 2020 is what pulled the trigger. Perhaps they'll include Namor in the film (he's often fan-cast as an Asian character), although despite his lengthy history I don't think he has enough cache to bring people in (it could be the same problem as adding Wasp to Ant-Man--the addition of an unknown to a small property doesn't boost it). It'll be interesting to watch developments as the project unfolds.

The theory that Thanos is in the past on Titan (via an image of concept art that came out; Kinda Culty presented this theory awhile ago and I included it in my discussion of Avengers 4) was debunked at the Collider Q&A. The idea never made much sense to me as it seemed very ancillary to the main thrust of the plot.

Andre has posted a video about the Netflix cancellations of its Marvel shows and rightly points to corporate politics as the reason--that Netflix does not want the shows to act as support to Disney's rival streaming service. The only thing in the video that I question is the idea that the viewership numbers of Luke Cage and Iron Fist season two are lower--as I pointed out at the time that information comes from Business Insider which had the same opinion of Daredevil season three and then had to back off that when they got hold of better data (trying to measure social media impact was not a great indicator of viewership). All that really matters, as Andre points out, is that Disney is a competitor and Netflix has no interest in helping them.

I haven't seen anyone talk about the fate of the remaining Marvel Entertainment TV properties (ie, Agents of Shield, The Runaways, and Cloak & Dagger), now that the MCU-proper is entering that sphere. I think it goes without saying that all properties that were not created through Kevin Feige don't 'count' and are therefore not part of the MCU. While there's theoretical creative space to bring at least the latter two shows into the fold, I don't expect that to be the case as Feige has shown no inclination to play ball with Ike Perlmutter's part of the Marvel Universe.

For quite some time Jeremy Conrad and his buddy Daniel RPK (passim) have been putting out vague rumours--eventually they claimed the Avengers 4 trailer would be part of a good week for Marvel. The pair got scooped by John Campea of all people (who, to my recollection, hasn't had a correct scoop in years), who provided tangible dates for its release as well as the Captain Marvel trailer. The tendency of the aforementioned duo to put out vague rumours has managed to get all such banned from Marvel's subreddit. Conrad, incredibly, was whining on Twitter that some 'small site' had scooped he and Daniel prior to Campea putting out the information--Conrad basically pulled a Campea on someone smaller than himself--which does not paint him in a positive light.

To go further into this for a moment: the big scoop this week wasn't when the trailer would drop (we all knew it would be around the same time as the Infinity War teaser last year), but that Shang-Chi was in development. No one had this news--not Conrad, not Daniel RPK, not Umberto Gonzalez, etc. THS had the scoop about the writer (link above), but with no idea what he was working on. I bring this up because I want to illustrate just how rare such scoops are--Conrad's whole site is based on one scoop (The Eternals; he may have the A4 title correct as well, but that's still to be determined); Umberto's last was simply Catherine Longford being cast in Avengers 4 without knowing who she was playing; Daniel hasn't had anything MCU-related that I'm aware of; we can also cross off Derek Cornell (The Disney Insider) as a valid source as his rumour about a new Guardians 3 director has been debunked. Since I started this blog THS has had the best track record, although as I pointed out last time they have issues as well.

This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)