I was in a rush to get the Chris Evans news out last time--I included some thoughts, but I've had more time to absorb it and, as such, have further speculation.
One thing Deadline didn't tackle (nor did I) is why now. Why is Evans being signed now? If his return is a few years down the line, there's no need for negotiations--what are the circumstances?
Currently Evans is filming Don't Look Up (which wraps in February). He's then set to appear in The Gray Man (directed by the Russo brothers), another Netflix product, which was meant to start in January--if that's still the case, then Evans would presumably jump from one production to another. I doubt the work would impact him having cameos, but it makes it likely that he's occupied until May or June.
What MCU productions are happening right now? Spider-Man 3 (completing in March), Doctor Strange 2 (filming put on hold in January due to Covid restrictions in the UK), Thor 4 (beginning in January), Ms. Marvel (since November), and Hawkeye (since December). Productions that begin soon are Moon Knight (March), She-Hulk (ibid), and Black Panther 2 (June or July).
One of the key points in the Deadline article is that the deal was for films, so we can exclude the Disney+ shows (Sutton believes he's too expensive for streaming--clearly not if he's currently filming back-to-back Netflix films). If it's for films, then it points in very specific directions. If this isn't Old Man Steve, we're looking at either:
- Resurrected Steve (via Wanda) - Highly unlikely (why stop at just that resurrection?)
- Zombie Steve - Evans isn't required (and it's being done in What If? already)
- Alt-Steve from another Multiverse - This is what I think is most likely (specifically the Steve from the universe where Thanos disappeared in 2014 to die in the main MCU)
Where would we see that character? Doctor Strange 2 makes the most sense, although it's possible Spider-Man 3 could also serve (granted, that film is so crowded it's unlikely). I don't see a fit for Thor 4 or Black Panther 2, neither of which have obvious mechanisms to involve him (one is in space, the other focused on Wakanda--although Black Panther 2 could use him for marketing).
What about the Murphy rumour about Nomad? Strictly speaking we don't know whether this is for a Disney+ show or a film, but if its the latter there doesn't seem to be any urgency to get him signed now (due to the announced schedule), but it's also clear he was signed for films. When I first saw the Nomad story, I assumed it was a Bucky-vehicle, but in terms of developing Steve Rogers as a character, the role of Nomad would make sense. Would I like to see a Steve film where he's Nomad? Yes. What's the most logical place to introduce him? Doctor Strange 2. Wouldn't that impact Falcon becoming Cap? Not at all, but it does give the MCU a chance to give Steve back the shield later if they want (as they always do in the comics because, no matter who else plays the role, fans want Steve to have it in the end--I've gone over the problem with successor characters before). With all that said, Occam's Razor would say Nomad is a Bucky Disney+ vehicle and Evans is back as an Alt-Cap without getting his own IP.
The first two episodes of WandaVision dropped and I've been trying to get a sense of how the broader fanbase is reacting (as expected, the hardcore fans loved it--you'd have to fail very hard to get any other result). Before I dig into that, what do I think?
I was very concerned with the sitcom premise--not just the 'why' element (which I think is on shaky ground), but I'm not generally a fan of the medium and have no nostalgia for it whatsoever. I also thought Pleasantville was a terrible film and that's an obvious influence. However, the episodes work well enough as sitcoms. The humour is what you'd expect and while the opening of episode one is weak, the comedy is satisfying enough to ride along while looking for the hints of what's really happening.
I think the first two episodes are too self-indulgent. Once the full series is out, I imagine most people re-watching it will skip these episodes--nothing significant happens in them. This is weakness and while it won't effect the overall impact of the show, I think showrunner Jac Schaffer was too in love with her premise (this is a hint as to why her Black Widow script was obliterated and successively re-written by two different writers). We know Marvel is aware of this weakness, because they sent the first three episodes to previewers--undoubtedly wanting to provide them more of a payoff.
How was it received? That's not easy to assess, but it's RT score is relatively low (82%) and in a sampling of reviews from those not clearly on the MCU train I've heard disappointment/frustration with the pacing. The two episodes combined (minus their lengthy credits, opening, and pointless recap) are a mere 49-minutes (21 and 28), so roughly the first episode of a typical streaming show. I think this slow pace would be forgiven if the payoff expected in the third was included, but that's not how Marvel decided to release it. Will stronger, more frenetic episodes change the minds of those with muted responses? Probably, but it's not the strong start expected (I understand wanting to keep up the mystery, but it's clear in the first episode what SWORD is doing, so including some of that in the second episode would have helped). The reception might also indicate that audiences expect more from the MCU than they do from Star Wars (whose Mandalorian had far worse opening episodes, but was embraced anyway).
Let's dive into the substance of the show--what we've learned about the plot of WandaVision. At the moment I think it's hard to discern between easter eggs and what's tangible to the show.
- We're shown, in the second ad, the Hydra symbol with the Strucker logo--this could be a callback to Winter Soldier/Age of Ultron (as far as we know, Hydra is extinct); Vision appears to be wearing this watch during the magic act
- There's an easter egg for the Grim Reaper in the animated intro in the second episode (a character who only came up once in rumours, from 4chan back in November of 2019)
- On Wanda's wall is artwork that exactly copies the Hydra base where she received her powers
- We get a couple of devil references that could point to Mephisto (from Dottie and Agatha Harkness in the committee scene)
- A statue of Whizzer is likely just a nod to comicbook inspiration (the character was unrecognizably used in Jessica Jones season two)
- Wonder Man appears among a mass of artwork in the background of the featurette released after the episodes (the speculation is that the character might appear, as he nearly did in Guardians 2, although not likely to be played by Nathan Fillion). He has a connection to both lead characters in the comics, both personally and as members of the West Coast Avengers--alternatively he might simply be there because he's part of the source material for the show (the image could be meant to throw fans off--Marvel is well aware of how scrutinized their backgrounds are--think of the unused footage from Infinity War that was included in marketing prior to its released)
There have been a host of theories in the wake of this, from dreaming (if so, how are people entering the reality?) to variations of the source material. I noted many breakdowns missed that anyone/anything entering Wanda's reality is transformed to suit it (the SWORD helicopter becomes a toy, Monica loses her memory, etc)--this also applies to the beekeeper people think is either one of the show's villains or an AIM-agent. To me it's clear he's a SWORD agent dressed in protective gear that was transformed into the beekeeper outfit to fit the new reality he arrived in. From trailer footage we know we'll get to see the SWORD-side of these events in subsequent episodes.
What is the plot? The surface of it isn't in doubt--Wanda is within her own bubble reality, either of her own accord or (much more likely) under the influence of someone. Agatha Harkness is aware of this on some level, but its unclear if her various hints are to help or hinder (she distracts Wanda from the helicopter, but she also drops clues about how fake the situation is). SWORD believes this is being done to her, but that's less clear (the simpler story to tell is that she is a victim). In a sense which villain is impacting the events doesn't matter--I think the idea of Nightmare is unlikely because there have been no hints for him at all, so I'm content to lean on Mephisto. What's blindingly obvious is whoever is involved wants her to have children (this would fit the Mephisto plot in the lore).
After the episode aired Andy Signore (Fandom Wire) claims Evan Peters appearance is as Quicksilver in the show. If so, this would presumably exclude Aaron Taylor-Johnson from appearing, but as I've said before about Signore, he doesn't have a track record to give his scoops credence yet.
There's a long 4chan rumour about the rest of the plot that I'll include below with other rumours.
THR (Borys Kit) reports that Ethan Hawke is in negotiations to play the main villain in Moon Knight. Which villain he could be is unclear, but what I find interesting is the approach Marvel is taking here. Unlike with Ms. Marvel, they are signing 'name' actors to push forward an otherwise obscure IP--probably because Moon Knight looks like it will lack pre-existing MCU stars, so by signing well-known talent, it adds some zip. Many people have also pointed out that, until recently, Hawke had a negative opinion about superhero films--it's unclear if he's changed his mind or simply wants the work (given how busy he is, I'm assuming it's the former).
Brandon Davis says Charlie Cox has been seen on the set of Spider-Man 3, although it's unclear if he's there as Daredevil or Matt Murdock. Davis' later headline said he'd wrapped filming, although that's not actually stated in the article.
Going back to the idea of the Netflix characters returning (en masse or in part), we still have no idea what the plan is. Is this appearance the same approach with the old Sony characters (including them as a waive goodbye)? I've pointed out before that, other than Finn Jones, these are all older actors--that doesn't make their inclusion impossible, but limits the kind of stories you can tell (and for how long you can tell them). All of the actors are available and willing, but what do you do with them? Briefly:
- Jon Bernthal (45 in September) - Filming King Richard; attached to the TV-show American Gigalo (pre-production)
- Mike Colter (45 in August) - Part of the TV-series Evil
- Krysten Ritter (40 in December) - Currently filming Nightbooks; if it's picked up, also on the TV-show The Coldest Case
- Charlie Cox (39 in December) - Currently filming the TV-series Kin
- Finn Jones (33 in March) - In two TV shows (I'm unsure if either is continuing), Dickinson and Swimming with Sharks
The schedules wouldn't preclude appearances, but might preclude leading their own vehicles. I don't think you bring back the Netflix shows. The final seasons of Punisher, Jessica Jones (whose second season was also awful), and Luke Cage were all poor, and Iron Fist, while it improved, its essence is being copied by Shang-Chi (the film has a lot of similarities with the first season). Only Daredevil, whose third season (while not as good as the first) was on decent footing, is theoretically an option. None of them were very coherently entrenched in the MCU so, to me at least, if you want to use them it's far better to either reboot them or have the actors play different iterations of the characters (confusing, but a possibility). We also don't know what the priority is from the MCU for these characters--other than Daredevil and Punisher, this is marginal IP. I'd argue there's nothing left to do with Jessica Jones, whose best material appeared in her excellent first season. Cage and Iron Fist work best as Heroes for Hire, but how quickly would you need that in your Disney+ lineup, and what does it lead into? As for the Punisher, who is always popular, he's a tough act to put on Disney in any form--and what, really, are you going to do with him in the broader MCU-context? These aren't easy questions to answer.
The other thing that's worth noting is that the Charlie Cox rumours began with a very specific claim (cameo as Spider-Man's lawyer--via curmudgeon Jeremy Conrad--who apparently now spends his time playing Fortnite on Youtube), which appears to be absolutely correct. None of the other claims, including those about Daredevil, have been as remotely specific. It's scattershot scoops from across the spectrum that heavily fits the personal tastes of those putting them out--this makes them very hard to judge.
On a personal note, it would highly amuse me if the MCU brought back Finn Jones, just so I could watch all the Marvel personalities froth at the mouth.
We’re told that currently, the film’s opening will feature Chadwick’s Black Panther character in costume, for a short, respectful tribute, and send off to the character. The specifics of that scene are still being decided on. But T’Challa will pass on. This will leave the state of Wakanda and the throne in disarray. We’re told many characters will vie for the throne, but ultimately one will prevail. We’ve learned Shuri will become the next Black Panther.Deep-sea Wakandan divers, will uncover the lost city of Atlantis. Black Panther 2 will feature the war of two hidden societies, Wakanda vs Atlantis. This will prompt the MCU debut of fan-favorite character Namor the Sub-Mariner. We’re told a big portion of the film will be underwater, which production was already preparing rigs and costumes for before Boseman’s passing. That water-heavy production plan has not changed. All of this connects to our previous exclusive, that someone bigger is pulling the strings to spark these warring societies…Doctor Doom.
Most of this isn't new info in terms of rumour (Shuri as Black Panther (cf), Namor as the antagonist (cf), even Doctor Doom (cf)). What is new is the mechanism for the conflict (always an oddity since Wakanda isn't on the coast of Africa and Namor is the ruler of the sea). After this dropped, Reilly Johnson (also for Fandom Wire) added that Killmonger will return for the film (how and in what capacity he isn't sure, but that would add some zest to what I feel is a limp roster).
The movie follows Blade as he attempts to prevent Dracula from obtaining the Darkhold, an ancient book of spells, which Dracula plans to use to make his followers invincible and conquer the world. The Darkhold had been hidden on another dimension for centuries, but resurfaces on Earth after the Scarlet Witch disrupts the Multiverse. [Since May Sutton has had Dracula in the film then spinning off to his own Disney+ series, although the first to suggest this was LotLB (TBK) in July of 2019, who said he would appear in Blade and be played by Wesley Snipes; the idea of the Darkhold as a mechanism was first proposed by Reddit in July, which claimed it would be created by Chthon and released in WandaVision, with Dracula becoming the main villain in Blade (Sutton had this on an R&D list in June, but not as part of a coherent idea); 4chan this January echoed the latter idea]The key to the Darkhold is Elsa Bloodstone, a young woman whose family has guarded the Darkhold for generations [unclear if this is also in another dimension]. Blade rescues her from Dracula’s followers and becomes her protector, mentor and surrogate father. Their relationship will be the emotional core of the movie, which has been described as a “supernatural superhero The Professional”. [Back in May K. C. Walsh said Elsa was in the MCU's supernatural plans, but not how; self-proclaimed scooper Joshua Munn also said this in May, likely copying Walsh, but specifying that she'd appear in Blade; last October Daniel said there were TV plans for her, but because of the timing and vagueness it's not clear if this is actually Sutton's information and related to the cancelled ABC show; there were rumours of the character as part of The Midnight Sons from Reddit in February]The villains are Dracula, Deacon Frost and Cullen Bloodstone. Frost is Dracula’s enforcer and the vampire who attacked Blade’s pregnant mother and caused Blade to become a Dhampir [half-vampire]. Cullen is Elsa’s older brother who was corrupted by Dracula into betraying his family. The Brides of Dracula are also featured as a trio of deadly assassins.The supporting characters include Jamal Afari, Marianne Afari, Gabriel Afari, Safron Caulder and Jim Landry. Jamal is an aging blind vampire hunter and Blade’s mentor. Marianne is Jamal’s daughter and Blade’s surrogate sister who runs a nightclub with criminal connections. Gabriel is Marianne’s son and a talented musician who develops a bond with Elsa. Caulder is Blade’s ex-girlfriend who works as a police detective, and Landry is her partner. [None of these characters have come up before]Blade’s powers include enhanced senses, rapid healing, peak physical attributes and immunity to sunlight, and he is less of a martial artist and more of a tactical operator [not a bad idea to keep him distinct from Shang-Chi]. He is also Creole rather than British, and the movie mainly takes place in New Orleans.The directors eyed by Marvel Studios are Barry Jenkins, Terence Nance, Rick Famuyiwa and Gina Prince-Bythewood. [Famuyiwa is a very busy man, committed to four future projects; Prince-Bythewood is the erstwhile director of Sony's dead production, Silver & Black]While casting won’t really begin until they have a director, Anya Taylor-Joy, Elle Fanning and Samara Weaving have been named as templates for the casting of Elsa Bloodstone, and there is active interest in casting Regina King as Marianne Afari and Morgan Freeman as Jamal Afari.For Dracula, producers plan to cast an A-lister, with some possibilities including Joaquin Phoenix, Javier Bardem, Michael Fassbender, Daniel Craig and Mark Strong, among others.No decision has been made yet, but there is active discussion on the possibility of making it a lower budget R-rated movie not as ingrained to the greater MCU as the more conventional projects, not unlike what is being planned for Deadpool.
I've seen the first two Blade films, but never read the comic, so I'm in the weeds on the lore. His final comment--about it possibly not being as ingrained in the MCU--does not fit what we've heard lately about Deadpool. One of the problems with 'adjacent' content is you're signaling to fans that they can skip it, and that hasn't been Feige's approach with anything, so I don't buy it. I'm also leery of the rescue narrative--a man rescuing a woman these days could be criticized (although perhaps a POC rescuing a white woman isn't as bad--I'm not sure how that fits within those sensibilities). With that said, it's not a bad premise and isn't overly dependent on scoopers, we just have no reason (yet) to believe the poster.
Release date currently set for October 7, 2022.Luis, Kurt, Dave, Paxton, and Maggie return. Ghost and Bill Foster also have roles in the film. [About a year ago we heard Dave was being removed from the film because of the outrage over his virginity checks of his daughter--whether that's considered on the level of Deadpool's T. J. Miller's MeToo/Amtram issues, I don't know; otherwise we'd all expect these characters to return]Road Trip style movie to the quantum realm vs Kang.Robbie Baldwin [aka Speedball] is introduced as Cassie’s boyfriend. Timothée Chalamet is the name I heard wanted for the role. [The character hasn't come up very often, but Sutton has put him on two R&D lists (August and November), the latter was associated with Darkhawk, so doesn't seem relevant here [Later: this is an old Fake Roger Wardell rumour]]Reed Richards is introduced in a small, yet pivotal role. They’re talking to Krasinski about the role. [Back in April Grace Randolph suggested the team would debut here and both Murphy and Conrad echoed it, although Deadline (same link) called the idea hogwash][Peyton] Reed and Rudd want Rick Moranis for a cameo.
There's almost no substance to this. The first two points are generally understood, the fourth has a predecessor, and the fifth is irrelevant, so the only news would be the inclusion of Speedball which, I mean, why not? Doesn't add much and says nothing about the narrative.
Fucking Kevin Feige is absolutely, you have to say, the greatest producer, most successful producer who ever lived. He's the only guy in the world who, if he told me, 'I know what the audience wants! This is what we're doing!' I would believe him 100%. That fucker knows his audience like no producer (ever), he’s a genius. Kevin is like a ringmaster at the circus, he knows exactly how much to wink at the audience, exactly when to pull at the heartstrings, exactly when to do the effects, how many jokes, what the sensibility, what the tone is. Because people didn’t know to run away from the pajamas or embrace it, or make it serious.
In light of this Sutton has hinted he knows something--an Affleck appearance in the MCU? Would they bring back his hilariously horrible Daredevil via Fox, or give him an actual role? Who knows. Sutton hasn't expanded on his oblique comment and no one else has said anything, so it remains food for thought.
- Doctor Strange 2 will feature vampires and werewolves [This would set the table for Blade I suppose]
- Marvel wants Henry Cavill for Captain Britain [A perfect fit if they can get him]
- Marvel changed their mind about Deadpool and he'll now carry his Fox roots with him into the MCU [Something I've always assumed]
- Storm will cameo in Thor 4 [What on earth for?]
- Marvel will have a POC team of heroes [I believe it's called Black Panther and Shang-Chi, but jokes aside, this looks like a monthly WGTC headline]
Speaking of rumours, here is the long plot summary of the rest of WandaVision from our friends at 4chan (the 1,000 word summary below would require access to the entire plot--either through viewing the episodes, seeing the script, or having one or the other described in detail to the poster); comments, as always, in pink:
Wanda is a SWORD agent after Endgame which you might already know includes Darcy, Jimmy Woo and Monica Rambeau. [I'll credit it with something unique: I've never seen Wanda described as a SWORD agent before]Woo was recruited from FBI to SWORD to keep check on superpowered beings after Sokovia Accords lost influence. [The logic is lost on me--Woo's background is failing to discover Scott Lang was able to escape him; and why would the Accords be losing influence?]Wanda was sent to investigate as a SWORD agent..but she was also a part of the team to keep check on her. [Investigate what?]Wanda as of now is placed in a real illusion. The sitcom world she sees is real with real people of the town – but one can't see so from the outside. [I can forgive him poor word choice here ('a real illusion')--I know what he means]Wanda came in contact with Mysterio who allowed her to gain Vision back and live a peaceful life – based on sitcoms she used to watch as a kid. [He means Mephisto, not the Spider-Man villain--see below]Mephisto will stay close to the couple and keep watch over them (he is in the rabbit currently). His plan is to obtain Wanda's kids in the hopes they'll be powerful sorcerers he can control. He deems Wanda too dangerous to control in the long run. [There's no evidence magic is hereditary in the MCU (yet)]Sword is trying to maintain contact with Wanda who is lost in her subconscious. Whenever she realises it, she rejects it.The entire show isn't gonna be a sitcom as marketed. We'll see Wanda fighting Sword near the end until Woo manage to make her realise that she's lying to herself. [Actually, the marketing has repeatedly said the end of the show is like a typical MCU-film]The couple will face numerous villains in the final episodes – the ones who were manipulating them...!Kathryn Hahn's Agnes is Agatha Harkess. She was a witch who was given away by her son (I'm not sure if her son will appear onscreen or not) and was burnt alive. [Referencing her son in the comics. Nicholas Scratch]She too made a deal with Mephisto who allowed her to live. She befriended Wanda for her children but will become an actual friend to her.However by the end she [Agatha] will be possessed by Nightmare who'd take advantage of Wanda's powers to break open the Multiversal seal – which will of course carry forward to DS2. [So the poster imagines both Mephisto and Nightmare appearing]Dottie will be revealed to be Clea. [I certainly hope not]Grim Reaper will act as Ralph – Agatha's "husband" who Vision would go against in the climax.Sword has a special device which was implanted on Wanda before she was sent. Essentially the events going on are being translated by her subconscious as a sitcom which can be seen by Sword agents (like Darcy) who are confused about what's happening with Wanda. [One of the major confusions here is where was Wanda sent?]Monica managed to enter Wanda's town while she was asleep in a helicopter. Sword will again try to break in.Monica would try to help Wanda realise the truth after getting her conscious back, but Wanda will get pissed off when she says her Vision isn't real and will throw her away from the town (to the outside world) using her powers.Quicksilver will return! And I know it sounds stupid, but Evan Peters is playing him. Aaron will appear in a couple of episodes. [The poster later says Peters appears when Johnson gets 're-cast' in the illusion--an odd idea]Wanda slowly starts remembering a few people of the outside world (including her brother). She is trying to figure out if she had a sibling herself, finding it weird why she wouldn't remember him.Meanwhile her subconscious starts to associate powers of the heroes she has known to random civilians of town.She has twins Billy and Tommy who also have powers. One of them has superspeed and she remembers her brother (but not fully).There's one more. Vision will feel a bit weird none of the kids look like him. So they'd create a daughter based off Vision (Viv). [This idea, of not just having the twins in the show, only comes from one place: a Sutton R&D list for both WandaVision and Doctor Strange 2]Quicksilver returns played by Aaron. However the presence of a real dead dude starts breaking the illusion.Grim Reaper (Ralph) will be revealed and he befriends Quicksilver. He'll get him written out of the show and Quicksilver gets recast to Evan Peters.The only one who finds it off is Viv. She is confused why Quicksilver doesn't look the former one. She tries to make others realise that. But they think she hates her uncle.There will be a rerun of all the sitcom episodes. Wanda will break out from her illusion midway in the show to her actual living room in her subconscious.Vision here is nothing but a puppet. At this point Wanda realises the entire illusion but she gets heartbroken realising her children weren't real.She flips the channels to find her children again and decides to enter the sitcom-y world once again.Darcy will end up there too and she will reveal Vision the entire truth (having watched all the sitcom episodes and analysed what causes the changes). [If Vision is a puppet, how does that help? The other problem with this idea is that in the trailers we've seen Agatha reveal this truth to him]Wanda will be unwilling to leave her world even after her fight against the Sword stops.Mephisto will take control of Quicksilver's body. Agatha will turn on him.Wanda will try to send Quickie back to his universe in the end with Agatha's help but Nightmare will use it as an opportunity to seize control of Agatha.The Nightmare part will only be revealed to the audience (not Wanda herself). Story carries over.There are flashbacks of Wanda's life. A lot of which are seen by Darcy who tries to understand the extent of her trauma.Yes Aaron will appear in flashbacks. Wanda will be shown a lot of these in the final episodes where she'd also find how the Mind Stone just unlocked her innate powers.Evan Peters will tell how in his universe Mutants are pretty common (just a tease).The ads in the show are all related to her trauma. There will be ads about Pietro's death, Lagos explosion and even a vacuum cleaner based on Thanos.The couple in each of the ads is her parents who are acting as stand-ins for events based off her trauma.Vision will help Wanda accept the reality and move on. He gives her his farewell and fights Grim Reaper, hoping to destroy the dome after sacrificing his life. [Vision just sacrificed himself to save Wanda in Infinity War, so this is redundant; we'll also see, below, that apparently he didn't sacrifice himself]Wanda saves Vision in a scene which mirrors Age of Ultron. He will return back to real world along with their children, Agatha, Quickie and rest of the town/Sword.Wanda is happy Vision is alive and sings a song to him, but it turns out he is effectively rebooted after the fight. Unable to bring his memories back, Sword leaves with Vision.Her children are also hidden by Nightmare-Agatha. Wanda gets torn and tries to move on, unaware to her Nightmare is opening up the Multiverse for unknown reasons.
Despite its length this is ultimately preposterous. The poster is trying to cram in everything he's heard about the show and, in the end, abandons even sense.
Daniel offers us a Sony rumour:
This sounds very much like Amy Pascal (not just the plan itself, but to do it Justice League-style without building the characters up first). Keep in mind most of this IP has been 'in development' for at least three years in various iterations, so this has the same likelihood of appearing as their original proposals. I asked Sutton about this and he dismissed it ("they had issues with even pairing Silver Sable and Black Cat").An all-female team-up with Black Cat, Silver Sable, Silk, Jackpot, Spider-Woman and more is in development at Sony
After this dropped Daniel said Sony is developing a Stunner (Angelina Brancale) film. She is a very deep cut (a minor villain no one has heard of). I don't believe that either.
This article is written by Peter Levi (@eyeonthesens)
Don't know if you've seen this, thought it might be interesting enough to share. Around new year’s someone posted a batch of 'key spoilers' for Disney+ shows, and later published them again with added run time.
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Now this doesn't sound like a typical spoiler leak, but more like strong rumours/known things (Jack Veal kinda confirmed he’s Kid Loki in an ig post back in December but quickly deleted), though there are also things that haven't really been speculated before I think, for example Madam Masque being the villain or Enchantress being Loki's daughter. It caught my interest because there’s stuff I hadn’t heard before.
Also, spanish voice actor Rodri Martin posted this on his twitter, seemingly confirming Evan Peters is playing Pietro in Wandavision. He deleted the tweet and then changed his username and went private. I checked and apparently he was also his dub for the role of Quicksilver in Fox movies.
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I hadn't seen the Rodri Martin post before or the 4chan post (glancing at the latter, much of the material I've seen elsewhere, but I'll go over it in my next installment). Not sure what to think of using Peters in that role, if that's what they do--depends on the context. Appreciate the links btw--while I try to get hold of all the best information, sometimes I miss things.
ReplyDeleteNo problem. I really appreciate your work.
DeleteBtw,here’s the ‘Kid Loki’ thing I mentioned earlier. Forgot to add it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ashes_ana/status/1338438285262286853
As for Richard E. Grant playing Old Loki. His stunt double had been listed as ‘Classic Loki’ on imdb before it was deleted…whatever that means.
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At least Loki’s ‘spoilers’ seem semi true or believable. Except the Enchantress being Loki’s daughter one. I have no idea where that came from. Though now that I looked it up, there’s a girl listed on Loki’s imdb page as ‘young Sylvie’. If I remember correctly, in the comics Sylvie is an Enchantress created by Loki, so maybe that’s where this rumour originated from.
Evan Peters appearing as Quicksilver surprised me. I realize there’s multiverse now but I honestly didn’t expect them to reference Fox verse in any shape or form. And if there was a version of QS set to appear I’d bet my money on ATJ.
I appreciate the links! These things will sometimes get referred too, but scoopers tend to not bother with screen grabs.
ReplyDeleteYes the Enchantress claim is based on the 'young Sylvie' listing. Oddly, none of the notable scoopers has suggested Grant has a Loki role (Variety said he's just there for one episode--that could be true for a number of iterations of the character, if that's what we get).
With Peters it's, again, all about context. I don't think you can simply have him without ATJ unless there's an explanation. I suspect we'll find out in either ep.3 or ep.4, as I don't think the 'perfect' existence for Wanda is going to last much longer than that.
I'm glad you enjoy the work! It's a labour of love--trying to make heads or tails of the bits of information out there. None of the scoopers are big on accountability, so the only way to track it all is...to track it all.